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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I wouldn't be surprised if this whole deal is just a way to maintain and exceed ratings. I'm that jaded.

My Prediction: The show carries on, and people will watch more, not less. This show is a cash cow with the minimum of production costs. He ain't going anywhere and the show ain't going anywhere. The episode when he returns will break their old record. This more about the almighty dollar rather than the Almighty himself.
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yep. IMHO, A&E needs them more than they need A&E. they are already multimillionaires and make $$$$$$$ off their duck commander business. The money A&E pays them is a drop in the bucket.
 
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Logicman said:
He paraphrased from 1 Corinthians 6:9-10: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
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No he didn't. He went on a rant about liking ***** more than butt holes. GMAFB.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I wouldn't be surprised if this whole deal is just a way to maintain and exceed ratings. I'm that jaded.

My Prediction: The show carries on, and people will watch more, not less. This show is a cash cow with the minimum of production costs. He ain't going anywhere and the show ain't going anywhere. The episode when he returns will break their old record. This more about the almighty dollar rather than the Almighty himself.
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or the family could use this publicity, break their contract, and go to another station.
 
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Carleen said:
How is this evident?
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I don't think you want to hear what I want to say but, abnormal, unnatural, being a misfit, etc come to mind. JMHO
 
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OscarB63 said:
yep. IMHO, A&E needs them more than they need A&E. they are already multimillionaires and make $$$$$$$ off their duck commander business. The money A&E pays them is a drop in the bucket.
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not to mention that if they become free agents so to speak, their phone will blow up with calls from almost every network.
 
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ARealConservative said:
or the family could use this publicity, break their contract, and go to another station.
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Going off of their statement where they reference him being fired for something that is constitutionally protected, they might be thinking about suing out of their contract.
 
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Kreton said:
Going off of their statement where they reference him being fired for something that is constitutionally protected, they might be thinking about suing out of their contract.
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yea, that is what I meant.
 
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clownboy said:
It's true, I agree with what Phil said more than I condone what Bashir said. But you haven't been paying attention if you think I'm any fan at all of Palin. In fact that shows just how wrong you are. You made an assumption that anyone who has ever read my posts about Plain knows is false.

That you can't see the difference between the two is on you and obviously due to your own misguided bias.
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Taken in it's proper context, Brashir simply suggested that Palin had no idea how horrible slavery was as an institution, and that if she really thinks it is nothing more than the national Debt, maybe someone should give her a Darby Treatment. Similarly, Phil said ***** beats ass, and anyone who doesn't buy into that is well on their way to ****ing a duck.

Both are outrageous comments that got them fired. I at least agree both are outrageous comments that should get them fired. You, not so much, preferring to fire the person making the comment you did not like while preserving the job of the guy who said what you do like. That defines hypocrisy.
 
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Verax said:
Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.
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A&E is a corporation,...it is not the public square.

they can hire or fire people.

as a citizen i can say anything i want about another citizen, as long as i dont threaten or slander.

all your telling me is you wish to silence people you disagree with.
 
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ARealConservative said:
hahaha. so you have seen the contract?
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No...ha ha ha....have YOU?

man. the way some of you quickly start lying and making **** up when your debate goes south is rich
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As I said...personal conduct clauses....ARE VERY COMMON. Do you think that the producers canned him, violated the contract.....without cause?

Dream on.

ps - it is a fact that contracts for employment have higher standards then other private contracts. you missed that point
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Uh...duh...I think the "higher standards" (of conduct) is the point.

I have no idea why you think he would not have conduct clauses in his contract.
 
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Logicman said:
It's called the New Testament.
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So you reject the old testament?

What's the difference between you and those who support adultery?
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One cannot support adultery, it is not a political or social construct that one can "support".

It is an action based on a personal decision.

And the difference between you and me is: I can enjoy sex! I am European, sex is national sport. Whilest you condem those who enjoy it on the basis of bronze age myths.
 
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calamity said:
No he didn't. He went on a rant about liking ***** more than butt holes. GMAFB.
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He had other things to say but here's what he said that references 1 Corinthians 6:9-10:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” the 67-year-old patriarch told GQ. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

Read more: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson: Gays 'won
 
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Logicman said:
He paraphrased from 1 Corinthians 6:9-10: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
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calamity said:
No he didn't. He went on a rant about liking ***** more than butt holes. GMAFB.
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Robertson did try to quote Corinthians. He ALSO talked about genitalia, and ALSO talked about never seeing blacks being mistreated in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana.

As for 1 Corinthians, the Bible is quite disgusting here. This is the same letter that says:

"For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man." 1 Corinthians 11:6-7

and

"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
No...ha ha ha....have YOU?
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no. which is why I was dealing with generalities about how the 1964 provision make these issues more complicated.

you came in making up bull**** pretending to have information you don't have.
 
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poweRob said:
I await your outrage over Martin Bashir's job being taken away.
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As they say on Sesame Street, "One of these things is NOT like the other" They're not even close.
 
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The German said:
So you reject the old testament?
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Nope, but now you have the New Testament, which in some ways makes OT teachings obsolete.

The German said:
And the difference between you and me is: I can enjoy sex! I am European, sex is national sport. Whilest you condem those who enjoy it on the basis of bronze age myths.
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The myth is that the sexually immoral will skate at the Judgment.
 
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TurtleDude said:
They do tend to be a bit more vindictive than some other groups that get lampooned in the media
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Like banshees.

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ARealConservative said:
or the family could use this publicity, break their contract, and go to another station.
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Why take the pay cut? I'm not sure a producer didn't tell him to get controversial in the GQ interview . . . but I am.
 
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calamity said:
Taken in it's proper context, Brashir simply suggested that Palin had no idea how horrible slavery was as an institution, and that if she really thinks it is nothing more than the national Debt, maybe someone should give her a Darby Treatment. Similarly, Phil said ***** beats ass, and anyone who doesn't buy into that is well on their way to ****ing a duck.

Both are outrageous comments that got them fired. I at least agree both are outrageous comments that should get them fired. You, not so much, preferring to fire the person making the comment you did not like while preserving the job of the guy who said what you do like. That defines hypocrisy.
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And once again you ignore that we're talking apples and spaceships here. Bashir's job was as a political commentator. He railed against a specific political figure AT HIS JOB and the content was deemed beyond the bounds of reason. Phil's job is to make duck calls, and there is also a reality show that follows along with him. Outside his job and the reality show he gave an interview where he revealed his thoughts on a variety of matters, including his religious stance on homosexuality. It had nothing to do with his job or the reality show that follows him (unlike Bashir), Also unlike Bashir, he didn't single any individual out nor was he attacking anyone.

Again you seem to be focusing on the debunked theory that I somehow like Palin, not to mention the inaccurate info that Phil was fired. Wake up, the producers of the reality show are having their cake and eating it too. By suspending Phil they avoid the GLAAD whining stink AND guarantee themselves higher ratings for the new season.
 
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Logicman said:
Nope, but now you have the New Testament, which in some ways makes OT teachings obsolete.
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Then why insist on condeming homosexuals when the old testament is obsolete?

The myth is that the sexually immoral will skate at the Judgment.
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Then why act like a Talbian and see it as a crime in the real world?
 
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ARealConservative said:
no.
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Which means you are guessing that his contract does not have personal conduct clauses....but....you accepted that Ellen does.




which is why I was dealing with generalities about how the 1964 provision make these issues more complicated.
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I was never talking about that.....and I have NO IDEA how that is relevant to personal conduct clauses.

you came in making up bull**** pretending to have information you don't have.
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Uh....as I said, neither DO YOU.

It remains a mystery to you that a contract actor would have personal conduct clauses in his contract. It is VERY common. Educate yourself on the subject.
 
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calamity said:
Speaking of hypocrisy. I notice that the same people defending Duck Guy, arguing that A&E should not have dropped his show for saying homos are like beast lovers, by some miracle of the ether also happen to be the exact same bunch who screamed for Martin Bashir's head when he suggested someone should **** down Palin's throat. The RW hypocrisy never seems to end, it seems.
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First of all, Phil never said that homosexuality was "like" Bestiality. Also, I think that what Bashir said of Palin is so much worse than what Phil Robertson said, it isn't even on the same plain of thinking.
 
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