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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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Mason66 said:
You focused on the money part and not onther lack of integrity part.

If your sexuality was that important to you, you would never let anybody walk all over you like that.

People used to know things like this.
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Nice that you get to judge me. On one hand I got conservative people telling I need to keep my sexuality to myself or I deserve to be fired and on the other hand I got conservatives telling me I have no integrity unless I am open about my sexuality and risk being fired. Yup. Love it. I am either "pushing my sexuality in people's faces" or I have no integrity and I "let anybody walk all over" me.

Honestly, you don't have to live with the consequences and you can't put yourself in my shoes, so I don't give a lot of weight to what you have to say about it. You have absolutely no idea what it is like, no conception whatsoever. But you feel entitled to judge and that says enough about you.
 
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Logicman said:
When was the last time you saw us go silent? Never happen. Ever.

You people eventually die, and the Word of God lives on. Praise the Lord!
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The story of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and La Cucaracha will also live on.

However society in the U.S. continues to evolve. In not too many years LGBT will have the same status as blacks and it will be off limits to discriminate against them in any shape or form. There will be occasional bouts of racism and homophobia we will largely be rid of it. The church will officially accept LGBT just like they do with blacks and life will go on for the better.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
I would be more careful with your words.



we the people do not decide what is allowed, every citizen has rights, those rights are not subject to "we the people's" approval.

only when a person has committed a crime, or does something that causes a heath and safety issue to the public does government have the authority to curtail a citizens rights.

when your on someone's property....you have no exercisable rights...only privileges the owner allows you.

discrimination is not a crime, and it does not endanger the health or safety of another citizen...

the 14th amendment states government shall not dicrminate...it says nothing about people or business, because the constitution does not at all limited either of the two.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.
 
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CriticalThought said:
Nice that you get to judge me. On one hand I got conservative people telling I need to keep my sexuality to myself or I deserve to be fired and on the other hand I got conservatives telling me I have no integrity unless I am open about my sexuality and risk being fired. Yup. Love it. I am either "pushing my sexuality in people's faces" or I have no integrity and I "let anybody walk all over" me.

Honestly, you don't have to live with the consequences and you can't put yourself in my shoes, so I don't give a lot of weight to what you have to say about it. You have absolutely no idea what it is like, no conception whatsoever. But you feel entitled to judge and that says enough about you.
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Where do you work? I mean, what type of workplace tells you to keep your sexuality to yourself? Why should your sexuality ever come up? At all?
 
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Verax said:
The story of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and La Cucaracha will also live on.

However society in the U.S. continues to evolve. In not too many years LGBT will have the same status as blacks and it will be off limits to discriminate against them in any shape or form. There will be occasional bouts of racism and homophobia we will largely be rid of it. The church will officially accept LGBT just like they do with blacks and life will go on for the better.
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the church has pretty much always accepted blacks. After all, they were forced to become christians. Lgbt should not be a protected class and neither shoild blacks. Human should be the only protected class. People should have the right to do business how they please and all people should be equal in the eyes of the LAW. And quit saying "homophobia". Nobody here is afraid of gay people. Thats one of the dumbest labels ive ever seen. Anti gunners are gunphobes, pro abortionists are babyphobes, gays are heterophobes. Its just such a stupid term.

Verax said:
Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.
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Hes not allowed on a&e. Totally different.
 
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nota bene said:
Where do you work? I mean, what type of workplace tells you to keep your sexuality to yourself? Why should your sexuality ever come up? At all?
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That is one aspect you Conservative minded folks never really have to think about. You don't think coworkers ask if I have a significant other? You don't think they ask why I am not married or if I am planning to have kids? I have a boyfriend of three years. Do you think I keep his photo on my desk? I have to lie to my coworkers and boss when they ask those kinds of questions.

That is the problem of viewing homosexuality purely in terms of sex. You folks have no grasp of what it is like to have to hide your most important relationship from everyone you work with day to day.
 
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CriticalThought said:
That is one aspect you Conservative minded folks never really have to think about. You don't think coworkers ask if I have a significant other? You don't think they ask why I am not married or if I am planning to have kids? I have a boyfriend of three years. Do you think I keep his photo on my desk? I have to lie to my coworkers and boss when they ask those kinds of questions. That is the problem of viewing homosexuality purely in terms of sex.
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If you are ashamed of your lifestyle, you should probably change it.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
If you are ashamed of your lifestyle, you should probably change it.
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Tried that and I ended up miserable and alone for quite awhile. Now I am in an amazing relationship with a wonderful person. I am not ashamed of my "lifestyle." I am afraid of being judged for it and losing my livelihood.
 
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rocket88 said:
When did having an opposing view become intolerant? Seriously, this idea on the right that tolerance = silence is puzzling.

I don't necessarily agree with A&E's actions here, but your definition of the word "intolerant" is wrong.
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By his definition of intolerance Martin Bashir should've kept his job after he said someone should **** in Sarah Palin's mouth.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
By his definition of intolerance Martin Bashir should've kept his job after he said someone should **** in Sarah Palin's mouth.
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Thank you SB! I wasn't putting my finger on the recent similar case I sort of remembered. Spot on.

That was a deplorable thing to say and he paid the price for it. Same for the Duck dude.
 
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C'mon guys.. We all knew at least one of those guys on Duck Dynasty was a bigot. At least one came out and said he was proud to be an ignorant bigot..
 
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Verax said:
Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.
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Except of course for the entire A&E Christmas Duck Dynasty Marathon.

:lamo
 
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NIMBY said:
From his history of quitting as a starting QB in college and walking away from a possible NFL career to focus on hunting,
what came after and his difficult years, to this with Duck at age 67,
he's just gonna go hunting to finish life off .
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why would you even know all of that?
 
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rocket88 said:
In embrace of ‘Duck Dynasty’ star, 2016 hopefuls make bid for evangelicals - The Washington Post



Bobby Jindal is officially running for President. He must be since he's just lost all sense of reality because he would rather pander. (Hint: A&E is not the Government).
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he could also be talking about the spirit of the first amendment, where offensive views are simply not shut out, but openly discussed and examined
 
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Gina said:
Thank you SB! I wasn't putting my finger on the recent similar case I sort of remembered. Spot on.

That was a deplorable thing to say and he paid the price for it. Same for the Duck dude.
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I don't know, one was a personal attack on an individual on a news show that he monitors. The other was a reality-TV star expressing his opinion on homosexuality in a magazine focused mainly on men's fashion. It's really hard to hold those two as equivalent, regardless of what you make of his opinion, which I find stupid and crass. But not only that, attacking the later just creates the perception of acceptance being pushed onto people, something that will never help a shift in social attitudes. Better to just accept people will always feel differently about it, especially when a social change is just emerging, as opposed to entertaining some ideal that acceptance needs to accompany tolerance.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. .
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At this point, I'm not entirely convinced that someone, who's avatar appears to be a Nun in her habit using a bong, will have a lot of credibility in the above referenced instructional lesson.
 
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Ray410 said:
At this point, I'm not entirely convinced that someone, who's avatar appears to be a Nun in her habit using a bong, will have a lot of credibility in the above referenced instructional lesson.
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man has a point
 
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Ray410 said:
My guess is that the CEO of A & E received an immediate and strongly phrased phone call from the White House. Possibly hinting at either threats or bribery.
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That's absolutely asinine.
 
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Verax said:
The church will officially accept LGBT just like they do with blacks and life will go on for the better.
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Hell will freeze over before Bible-based churches officially accept LGBT debasement.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
If you are ashamed of your lifestyle, you should probably change it.
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You're pretty confused, aren't you. Or deliberately misunderstanding.
 
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What I find interesting, having read about this non-news worthy subject all day, is that a majority of the people complaining about the intolerance of one man's responses are, in the same breath, being intolerant of the people objecting to what Robertson said. They say the gays and their supporters are intolerant for not being silent and just accepting robertson's words, but when the shoe is on the other foot, they won't practice what they preach. They get all up in arms and start fighting back at whatever gay supporters say, because it offends their delicate sensibilities.

The man said what he said. I don't believe it was bigoted, homophobic or racist. I simply believe what he said was based in ignorance. Homosexuality does not "morph" into bestiality or promiscuity. It's a silly thing to say, which is why I say his answers were only ignorant and not bigoted/homophobic. He has his faith. I am all for that and I'm not going to skewer him just because he doesn't understand the homosexual attraction.

Having said that, I still believe A&E has the right to fire and hire who they desire. I mean, a lot of people object to ENDA and believe businesses should be able to fire gays and others for whatever reasons they believe valid. This is no different.
 
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winston53660 said:
On his tin foil hat?
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did you read the post I was responding to? Try familiarizing yourself with the concept of "context"
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
did you read the post I was responding to? Try familiarizing yourself with the concept of "context"
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And you call yourself Dr Chuckles :shock:
 
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