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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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Jetboogieman said:
By this ****ing logic I should be able to say whatever I want whenever I want at work.

I should be able to call my boss an asshole and the guests who complain about their stay a bunch of whiny bitches and I can get away with it because "free speech".

Some of you right wingers have a pretty funny idea about how free speech works.

The gentleman works for A&E.

They can fire him if they want to.
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You think that is the same as this man saying he doesn't deal with gays and he will let God sort it out?
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Yes, as a sin. Am i equating murder and tax fraud above when I point out they are both "crimes? Again, you're totally misrepresenting what was stated. And clearly you can't directly address that issue besides mindlessly repeating yourself
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Yeah, if you cannot understand why some one might be upset about being compared to bestiality or terrorists, I think there is a real disconnect.
 
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Rocketman said:
As I stated earlier, maybe the family will band together and leave the network
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I hope they do actually. While I disagree with Phil's point of view, it's inspiring to see his moral strength
 
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Mr.Nick said:
IMO, I think the network was just looking to exploit white Christian men with beards in the first place - the same way they tried to portray white people like that honey boo-boo baby family (whatever that show is called)...

I don't even watch TV or support those evil doers attempt at brainwashing people.
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Yeah, they're not trying to make money or anything. They're just out to get you. :roll:
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Kind of what I thought.

So a business made a business decision and you despise them for it...who is being intolerant now?



So when A&E, a business, was threatened with losing money, they took an action to not lose money? And that makes them different than just about every other business?

I'm also curious about your idea of "thuggish"...if GLAAD and "the rest of them" expressing their opinion on the topic of homosexuality is thuggish, do you consider Robertson's comments thuggish too? If not, why should people who express an intolerance with homosexuality get to express themselves freely, but not the people who support it?

Again I ask...who really is the intolerant one here?

Exactly, though I don't know if I would say it is a quality exclusively to "the right". I think both sides firmly believe in the "right to express yourself until you say something I don't like".
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I hope the whole family sticks together and tells A&E that they won't do the show anymore.

That will cost a lot more money than a few gays complaining.
 
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You know what also happens? People getting bombarded with the Christian tenants on a daily basis. Try and think about one day you have had where you didn't witness anything that has ties to the Christian religion. The are organizations whose sole purpose is to do exactly that.

People of the Christian faith are supposed to spread the message, it's part of their beliefs. And when they do that, inevitably they are going to run into opposition. It's a two way street.


Kreton said:
To say that there aren't people who attack and attempt to persecute christianity is just very inaccurate. There are organizations who do exactly that. There are a lot of Americans in this country who mock and attack people for being Christian. It happens, and it happens pretty regularly.
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Rocketman said:
Lying to yourself in not my problem
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Nor is your lack of knowledge about business law and history.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Really? what do you think reality TV is?

What is wrong with you man?

IMO, since this is reality TV, that makes the "punishment" even worse.
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Well if you find the part of the Constitution that says you have the right to be on TV, or to be shielded from consequences of speaking your mind, I'm all ears.
 
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This must be the thread where people argue about which political or religious opinions, publicly stated, are grounds for firing and which are not. Lest some forget, recall Geico.
 
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Hatuey said:
I think outspoken evangelism and religiously based intolerance is definitely a Southern trait. Him being a redneck just adds to the stereotype. I think you're getting worked up about the wrong part of the story. This is a guy who gets rich off portraying an ignorant, intolerant, Southern hick and nobody bats an eye. He says 1 thing about homos and it's suddenly cause for debate.
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I don't agree with the characterization of the man but the point is valid.

They end each show with a prayer before the meal so is it a surprise the man doesn't wholly embrace gays?

I wonder why GQ asked him about gays in the first place. They are not part of his world so maybe it was a gotcha question.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
A&E was practicing free speech by deciding what to air on its own private networks. It isn't "free speech vs. A&E" here...
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I'm not arguing against their right to run their network how they see fit - I'm saying they were being de facto intolerant...

A&E was just pandering to political correctness...
 
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Really? You can't see intolerance on the part of the homosexual lobby/political activist that use political correctness to their end and endeavor? Clearly this person is being punished for his point of view which is different from theirs. Where does it end - or do you only get to draw the line?


rocket88 said:
When did having an opposing view become intolerant? Seriously, this idea on the right that tolerance = silence is puzzling.

I don't necessarily agree with A&E's actions here, but your definition of the word "intolerant" is wrong.
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Mr.Nick said:
I'm not arguing against their right to run their network how they see fit - I'm saying they were being de facto intolerant...

A&E was just pandering to political correctness...
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Come on. Everyone uses political correctness.
 
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rocket88 said:
Well if you find the part of the Constitution that says you have the right to be on TV, or to be shielded from consequences of speaking your mind, I'm all ears.
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And when did I even make or imply any of that?

You're just making up a bizarre argument that's from left field (no pun intended)...
 
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wolfsgirl said:
There are consequences to any freedom of speech.

If I walk into a restaurant and start a loud discourse on any subject, they can kick me out. That is not suppression of free speech, that is a business doing what it must to prevent other paying customers from walking away.
If I work on a TV show, and say all Christians should be executed, the network has the right to fire me.
If I am standing on the street corner saying that aliens are coming and want to do anal probes on all Americans. People can call me a lunatic.

Those are the consequences of my speech. If you are not willing to deal with the consequences of what you put out there, then maybe you should edit what you say. No one is required to appreciate, or approve of, what you or I say. And no one is required to give you a platform to speak from.
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That is fine but religiousness is part of this family and the show, which A&E approved. Why are they surprised when the man does not have a favorable view on gays?
 
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Mr.Nick said:
I'm not arguing against their right to run their network how they see fit - I'm saying they were being de facto intolerant...

A&E was just pandering to political correctness...
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Whether they were or not is irrelevent
 
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tacomancer said:
Whether they were or not is irrelevent
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No. Its not irrelevant... its the whole reason why this topic is up for debate on a debate website.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Come on. Everyone uses political correctness.
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I'm not politically correct at all - I view political correctness to be Orwellian...

Hell, political correctness isn't even correct because it doesn't apply to everyone - just certain groups progressives adore. Progressives have absolutely ZERO concern stomping on those outside of that bubble...

So forget political correctness - that is social engineering...

I'm generally a nice guy to boot and don't want to offend anyone - I just am not going to change my language or belief structure to not offend others - they they get offended it's their fault not mine - believe me - that usually is never my intent.... When I really hate someone they will know it....
 
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Mason66 said:
That is fine but religiousness is part of this family and the show, which A&E approved. Why are they surprised when the man does not have a favorable view on gays?
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There is a difference between religiousness and offending people. DD is not the only show on A&E, and they probably do not want to offend people who watch other shows on the network.
 
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Caine said:
No. Its not irrelevant... its the whole reason why this topic is up for debate on a debate website.
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Yes, people are butt hurt and all sad they didn't get their way.

But no. It doesn't matter. In a free society these things can and do happen.
 
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VanceMack said:
And yet...the hysterical homosexual brigade doesnt soil themselves when it is a democrat or liberal actor or musician that makes anti-gay comments. oddly enough.
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Your hysteria and persecution complex is so outrageous it's practically flaming

But that assume that you actually believe the BS you just posted, which you obviously don't as evidenced by one of your later posts:

VanceMack said:
Sorry...that is a very incorrect characterization of the 'evolution' of his opinion. The fact is his "evolution" came about 2 weeks after the New York Times issued a fairly large and damning article quoting many wealthy homosexuals as saying they were wiling to sit this election out and not contribute financially as Obama had not been more supportive of the gay community. Make of it what yoy will, but the fact is...he didnt 'evolve' until he wanted their money.
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IOW, dems get a pass about their beliefs on homosexuality.....except when they don't
 
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Mr.Nick said:
I'm not politically correct at all - I view political correctness to be Orwellian...

Hell, political correctness isn't even correct because it doesn't apply to everyone - just certain groups progressives adore. Progressives have absolutely ZERO concern stomping on those outside of that bubble...

So forget political correctness - that is social engineering...

I'm generally a nice guy to boot and don't want to offend anyone - I just am not going to change my language or belief structure to not offend others - they they get offended it's their fault not mine - believe me - that usually is never my intent.... When I really hate someone they will know it....
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Alright Nick. Should teachers be allowed to discuss democratic socialism from the perspective of those that prefer democratic socialism?
 
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tacomancer said:
Whether they were or not is irrelevent
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Seriously?

Have you not been paying attention to this thread?

It's so amazing - I understand your argument, yet you find mine difficult because you cant get off your horse..

All you're doing is defending progressive fascism.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Seriously?

Have you not been paying attention to this thread?

It's so amazing - I understand your argument, yet you find mine difficult because you cant get off your horse..

All you're doing is defending progressive fascism.
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Lol

Refer to my post above as to why it doesn't matter
 
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