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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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CRUE CAB said:
The whole prayer deal at the end of the show, other talks and sermons he has given have been an issue for people since the beginning.
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That is the whole point. The audience has taken the show to number one in cable history with those aspects included.
 
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Verax said:
Your argument is so bizarre at a fundamental level it is hard to parse it. You think there is quantifiable evidence somewhere? where? what kind of evidence?
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you are the one making definitive claims with zero evidence.
 
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VanceMack said:
Come one...be honest. ANY comment he made that indicated less than a favorable stance on homosexuality would have been deemed an 'issue'.

No...I have never heard Obama say..."homosexuals...they are just as bad as drunks and terrorists." But then...Phil Robinson did not sya they are 'just as bad'. He wasnt qualifying levels of good or bad or equating them. His comments were in response to the question "what is sin"...not "rank sins by activity, group, and participants."
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Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. Don't make ridiculous and offensive over the top comparisons. For example, its ok for you to say that you believe homosexuality is a sin. It is offensive to compare it to bestiality. It is ok to say, I don't like the IRS. It is over the top to compare them to "jack booted thugs". It is ok to say, I don't like the EPA. It is over the top and offensive to compare them to the Gestapo.

When people make over the top comparisons like that, it not only makes them look like a nutjob, it also is offensive because it compares the plight of people that were genuinely oppressed to something you just happen to not like. It compares what consenting adults do with other consenting adults, to the rape of animals. The offensiveness is not in your opinion, it is in the offensive comparisons that that the religious right and social conservatives seem to have a penchant for lately.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. Don't make ridiculous and offensive over the top comparisons. For example, its ok for you to say that you believe homosexuality is a sin. It is offensive to compare it to bestiality. It is ok to say, I don't like the IRS. It is over the top to compare them to "jack booted thugs". It is ok to say, I don't like the EPA. It is over the top and offensive to compare them to the Gestapo.

When people make over the top comparisons like that, it not only makes them look like a nutjob, it also is offensive because it compares the plight of people that were genuinely oppressed to something you just happen to not like. It compares what consenting adults do with other consenting adults, to the rape of animals. The offensiveness is not in your opinion, it is in the offensive comparisons that that the religious right and social conservatives seem to have a penchant for lately.
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it is ok to say you don't agree with these people.

it is not ok to call them inbred hicks.
 
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j-mac said:
Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.
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I dont get what this has to do with bipartisan politics. Leftist intolerance? Did he make these statements on behalf of the democratic party or are you simply reducing this to anything anyone does completely reflects the actions of anyone who shares any political belief with a person?

I dont see how what he said was even intolerant. Really seems like we are getting to the point that its not enough to not discriminate.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. Don't make ridiculous and offensive over the top comparisons. For example, its ok for you to say that you believe homosexuality is a sin. It is offensive to compare it to bestiality. It is ok to say, I don't like the IRS. It is over the top to compare them to "jack booted thugs". It is ok to say, I don't like the EPA. It is over the top and offensive to compare them to the Gestapo.

When people make over the top comparisons like that, it not only makes them look like a nutjob, it also is offensive because it compares the plight of people that were genuinely oppressed to something you just happen to not like. It compares what consenting adults do with other consenting adults, to the rape of animals. The offensiveness is not in your opinion, it is in the offensive comparisons that that the religious right and social conservatives seem to have a penchant for lately.
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:lamo

Sensitivity advice...

:lamo
 
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rocket88 said:
When did having an opposing view become intolerant? Seriously, this idea on the right that tolerance = silence is puzzling.

I don't necessarily agree with A&E's actions here, but your definition of the word "intolerant" is wrong.
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Seriously?

Those who promote tolerance are the least tolerant... It's so ironic...

You're not tolerant at all - you just promote ideas..

Tolerance is a 2-way street buddy...

You cant punish someone for not adhering to a philosophy.
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo

Sensitivity advice...

:lamo
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Just trying to help you out. I realize that the Empathy Gene seems to be missing with many social conservatives.
 
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Redress said:
It is thuggish to use your right of free speech, unless of course it is the right using that right. Ah, the wonderful world of us gud, them bad. Logic simply does not apply to that world...
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Well, it does seem to be a general overreaction to what he said, and the fact anyone maintains the idea that everyone needs to agree with them or face civil consequences is pretty childish. And that applies regardless of issue or politics, short of it having some real implications (and no, some ass-hat on reality tv having a stupid opinion is not something that carries "real implications".

In fact, at the end of the day, this will likely only push people away from issues like gay marriage, etc, and increase the perception that they are having a "pro-view" shoved down their throats
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. Don't make ridiculous and offensive over the top comparisons. For example, its ok for you to say that you believe homosexuality is a sin. It is offensive to compare it to bestiality. It is ok to say, I don't like the IRS. It is over the top to compare them to "jack booted thugs". It is ok to say, I don't like the EPA. It is over the top and offensive to compare them to the Gestapo.

When people make over the top comparisons like that, it not only makes them look like a nutjob, it also is offensive because it compares the plight of people that were genuinely oppressed to something you just happen to not like. It compares what consenting adults do with other consenting adults, to the rape of animals. The offensiveness is not in your opinion, it is in the offensive comparisons that that the religious right and social conservatives seem to have a penchant for lately.
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agreed
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Just trying to help you out. I realize that the Empathy Gene seems to be missing with many social conservatives.
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Its generously applied...where appropriate.
 
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ARealConservative said:
it is ok to say you don't agree with these people.

it is not ok to call them inbred hicks.
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So let me get this right... now suddenly its ok for them to say things at the national level that are hateful... but if somebody says something back to them on a forum its not ok?

You are going into a dimension of hypocrite that science cannot explain.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me give you a bit of sensitivity advice to avoid offending people. Don't make ridiculous and offensive over the top comparisons. For example, its ok for you to say that you believe homosexuality is a sin. It is offensive to compare it to bestiality. It is ok to say, I don't like the IRS. It is over the top to compare them to "jack booted thugs". It is ok to say, I don't like the EPA. It is over the top and offensive to compare them to the Gestapo.

When people make over the top comparisons like that, it not only makes them look like a nutjob, it also is offensive because it compares the plight of people that were genuinely oppressed to something you just happen to not like. It compares what consenting adults do with other consenting adults, to the rape of animals. The offensiveness is not in your opinion, it is in the offensive comparisons that that the religious right and social conservatives seem to have a penchant for lately.
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In what universe do you regulate language or personal beliefs?

People can say and believe whatever they want... You progressives just believe you can regulate social behavior and you cant....

The weird part is that you progressives tolerate such absolute disgusting nonsense like OWS but will cry over a few words some reality TV star said...

You do realize you're just trying to regulate what is acceptable and what is not???

Look in the mirror or look at your post.... You cant even value a personal opinion.
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo

Sensitivity advice...

:lamo
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Common sense.

I see someone slamming gays by calling their sex acts equivalent to bestiality a good reason for A&E to rethink the contract. It's like saying Jews are Jesus killers. I mean, come on, everyone knows that if you are in entertainment, slamming gays or Jews is a quick ticket off the air.

"Think before you speak."
 
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ARealConservative said:
I'm not saying you did.

but it has been said often in these threads today.
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I think they look more like ZZ top than inbred hicks.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Well, it does seem to be a general overreaction to what he said, and the fact anyone maintains the idea that everyone needs to agree with them or face civil consequences is pretty childish. And that applies regardless of issue or politics, short of it having some real implications (and no, some ass-hat on reality tv having a stupid opinion is not something that carries "real implications".

In fact, at the end of the day, this will likely only push people away from issues like gay marriage, etc, and increase the perception that they are having a "pro-view" shoved down their throats
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Let's say I did an interview with the local paper where I said that as a Bible believing Christian, I believe interracial marriage to be a sin. Let's say I then went on to compare interracial marriage to whites marrying an ape. Would you think my employer was being intolerant if they suspended or fired me for that?

How is such a comparison any different than comparing homosexuality to bestiality? How is that any less offensive?
 
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Verax said:
So let me get this right... now suddenly its ok for them to say things at the national level that are hateful... but if somebody says something back to them on a forum its not ok?

You are going into a dimension of hypocrite that science cannot explain.
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Hey, lets not forget it was progressive intolerance that created this singularity of irony.
 
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The biggest problem with the concept of tolerance is what is considered tolerant and what isn't. As for this guy, couldn't care less.
 
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calamity said:
I think they look more like ZZ top than inbred hicks.
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Just dont call Phil a zz-bottom!
 
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CRUE CAB said:
The whole prayer deal at the end of the show, other talks and sermons he has given have been an issue for people since the beginning.
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Praying on TV is a bit over the top. But, I like that the character of the people on this particular reality show is such that they are not back-stabbing, arguing over petty crap like the drama queens we see on Real Housewives. It's a wholesome show, and I'm sorry that its getting axed. Maybe Fox will pick it up.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
In what universe do you regulate language or personal beliefs?

People can say and believe whatever they want... You progressives just believe you can regulate social behavior and you cant....

The weird part is that you progressives tolerate such absolute disgusting nonsense like OWS but will cry over a few words some reality TV star said...

You do realize you're just trying to regulate what is acceptable and what is not???

Look in the mirror or look at your post.... You cant even value a personal opinion.
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Evidently common decency is an abstract concept for you.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Hey, lets not forget it was progressive intolerance that created this singularity of irony.
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There is no progressive irony here. As a nation we've decided we don't tolerate hate speech. If you want to spew hate then you will have to accept the consequences. That is the free will of the people, deal with it.
 
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Progressives are who they claim to hate, or don't tolerate while they're promoting tolerance..

Sorry progs, people are not all robots - we all have different ideas, opinions, beliefs, lifestyles etc..
 
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