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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    let's not bring theology into the debate.

    as an athiest, the debate would center around the terms knowledge and religion, and how they don't relate
    I took theology out of the debate.

    Couldn't a person with a logical mind come to the conclusion that those things were not wise for people to partake in?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I've heard this "sins are equal" line. It's mostly cute, but I do not believe you will find a single person that literally approaches the problem this way. All you have to do is find one instance where he expresses the thought that one is higher than the other, and the system crumbles.
    What are you talking about? Nobody said that sins are equal, just as nobody said that crimes are equal. The argument that you, and others, are attempting to make is that because Phil Robertson listed some sins including homosexual acts, swindling and adultery in a single sentence that they are being somehow equated in severity. That is the logical fallacy that I am pointing out and objecting to. To assert that because he left out murder, in his sin examples, then he must not consider it a sin is equally insane.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Post 883 for one, then you went on in several others about how he was "let go".
    Well, Phil wasn't technically "fired" either. Or was he?

    The results though are the same. So...whatevs.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by straykatz View Post
    How is this one different from Paula Dean's firing from the Food Network - racist or bigot....all the same!
    Having religious beliefs makes one a bigot...I see.

    That would be 'your' opinion.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What are you talking about? Nobody said that sins are equal, just as nobody said that crimes are equal. The argument that you, and others, are attempting to make is that because Phil Robertson listed some sins including homosexual acts, swindling and adultery in a single sentence that they are being somehow equated in severity. That is the logical fallacy that I am pointing out and objecting to. To assert that because he left out murder, in his sin examples, then he must not consider it a sin is equally insane.
    Most honest people know what he was trying to do. When people say that statement, they somehow keep pointing to the same exact "sins" and do so out of proportion to their evil. If the man had said homosexuality is part of a national sickness which includes being cranky with your neighbor, the implication may be that homosexuality isn't so bad. It's a rhetorical device meant to demonstrate how much the person despises homosexuality, and to what awful extent God bars you from the Kingdom.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I took theology out of the debate.

    Couldn't a person with a logical mind come to the conclusion that those things were not wise for people to partake in?
    I think you are stretching it. I have no interest in such a debate. I think committed relationships are healthy, yes. that is as far as I would go.

    we were talking about it in legal terms though.

    Some provisions in the 1964 civil rights act changes the employee/employer relationship for protected classes, such as religion which makes this story slightly more convoluted.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what part of "all contracts are not the same" is too complex for you to understand?
    What part of speculating that moral, ethics, clauses were NOT in his contract...is so hard for you to understand?

    FFS....this is so pathetic!


    there is nothing in my contract that prevents me from giving interviews. the only thing my contract prohibits is releasing propriatary information
    Non-sequitur....who cares? You can now say ANYTHING about your clauses....there is no proof.



    you're the one crying about it. take your ball and go home if you don't like.
    Crying? Please. If you have nothing to add to the conversation, go away.



    I'm not speculating on anything. merely pointing out that you made a claim that you cannot back up
    You are speculating that his contract DOES NOT have ethics clauses.





    and again...not all contracts are identical.
    and again, non-sequitur....i did not say they are.....BUT....the fact is that ethic/morality clauses ARE very common.

    If you have a better explanation for A&E cause for suspension, state it.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Most honest people know what he was trying to do. When people say that statement, they somehow keep pointing to the same exact "sins" and do so out of proportion to their evil. If the man had said homosexuality is part of a national sickness which includes being cranky with your neighbor, the implication may be that homosexuality isn't so bad. It's a rhetorical device meant to demonstrate how much the person despises homosexuality, and to what awful extent God bars you from the Kingdom.
    Great logic there, Skippy: if one disagrees with your opinion then they are being dishonest.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Great logic there, Skippy: if one disagrees with your opinion then they are being dishonest.
    Yup. It's good to be right occasionally.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    again...I am not the one making claims that I cannot backup
    I don't have to back them up, I am making an argument of most likely scenario.

    Now go ahead and nit pick.....and believe that it changes the reality of the situation.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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