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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    The whole Robertson family ought to be eternally grateful to A&E for making them richer than they ever would have imagined.

    To quote an old saying, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it"...that's how I feel about this situation. I disagree with what he said, but I think he's certainly within his right to say it, as long as he's not actively seeking to discriminate against anyone. But, at the same time, I feel A&E has the same right, and while I think it's a little hypocritical to be offended by the views A&E has profited greatly from, they certainly have the right to do it when it directly impacts their bottom line.

    And I felt the exact same way when the CEO of Chick Fil A made his comments last year about homosexuals...and I still happily eat there.
    Why is that again? You get that they were a very successful and wealthy family LONG BEFORE A&E came along, right?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As to the show, I will be very disappointed in the rest of them if they dont politely decline to continue the show effective immediately.

    As for those Gay rights group boycotts...the last one we saw was the Chik Fil A episode....and judging by the results, it was pretty good for business.
    That's because southern conservatives don't need an excuse to eat another fried chicken sandwhich.
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    'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Though I believe obviously A&E has a right to fire whoever they want to fire for any reason, I don't see why his views outside of the show, have any effect on his ability to do the show, nor do I see how that would be put on A&E.
    It alters the value of the brand in a way the network wasn't happy with. Marketing concerns are legitimate for this sort of thing. Remember, the audience doesn't compartmentalizations like some would expect them to.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    That's because southern conservatives don't need an excuse to eat another fried chicken sandwhich.
    Sure...except it wasnt just southern conservatives, it was nationwide, and actually...more than a few homosexuals professed their undying support to their chicken sandwiches and peach shakes.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure...except it wasnt just southern conservatives, it was nationwide, and actually...more than a few homosexuals professed their undying support to their chicken sandwiches and peach shakes.
    And their sublime iced tea!

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure...except it wasnt just southern conservatives, it was nationwide, and actually...more than a few homosexuals professed their undying support to their chicken sandwiches and peach shakes.
    The vast majority of chik File franchises are in the Bible Belt.

    Edit: Just to be clear...I'm not saying you're not right. Alot of people showed support for Chik File...but that is different than national brands where a lot of people in say...NY or California buy a lot of their products.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    In other words, you dislike Robertsons use of the words anus and vagina?
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I respect your point, but here's the deal. A&E is responsible for it's corporate image, and they do not want that image tarnished. True, it might not be fair, but that's the way it is. And free speech is only free speech up to a point. Like the old adage "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre". Now exactly where that point is should be what we debate here.

    As far as the government goes, free speech is free speech, no matter how wrong it is. I remember the government ruling against the Jewish community in Skokie Illinois and allowing the KKK to march there. However, A&E is not the government. It is a privately owned company, and has the right to set it's own standards of behavior. Don't like it? Then boycott it.... Isn't that what a lot of people are doing now?
    Point well taken. But it is reported that Robertson warned up front that he would bail if A&E tried to censor any part of the show pertaining comments about faith in God or guns and they agreed. So why are they now reprimanding him for his comments about his religious beliefs on sin in a magazine interview?

    From a report earlier

    On May 9, Greensboro, NC country station 93.1 The Wolf reported that after receiving complaints over prayers to God and the frequent use of guns on air, Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson said, "God and guns are part of our everyday lives [and] to remove either of them from the show is unacceptable."
    After that, A&E signed up Phil and the gang for another season of Duck Dynasty under Phil's terms.

    'Duck Dynasty' Star Vows to Quit if Network Bans Talk of God or Guns

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I just went looking at several boycotts called by talk radio, one million moms, bloggers or the far right-

    saying they are less than effective is being kind.

    But of course the radical right/religious ranters are free to TRY a boycott, letter writing campaign, or whatever. It is the American Way I guess.

    But I doubt this is the end of A&E. If the Jersey Shore taught us nothing is many Americans don't understand what the word 'reality' really means... Plenty more train wrecks and freak shows to put on air. How about more knocked up teens- that should appeal to the redneck crowd !!!! "Look there is Linda-Sue!!!!"

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    I just quoted from a blog that made some good points I thought. Honestly, way too much is being made of this. It's television and nobodies lives are going to change because of the statements of one man, agree with them or not.

    Personally, I will admit that I am a political eater. I don't eat veal, foie gras or swordfish because of the ethics involved in the production. I avoid Chevron when possible so I understand boycotts. Personally A&E made a foolish decision. There is no such thing as bad publicity and had they kept the elder Robertson in the line up the show would have blown up bigger than it is.

    I don't watch Duck Dynasty so none of this really matters to me.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    It alters the value of the brand in a way the network wasn't happy with. Marketing concerns are legitimate for this sort of thing. Remember, the audience doesn't compartmentalizations like some would expect them to.
    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Because there's no such thing as "outside the show" for reality stars. It's what they sign up for either knowingly or unknowingly.
    Mind you, I'm pro-SSM and about as anti-religious as one can be, but I'm starting to get a little concerned with the gross imbalance between gay rights and religious rights as pertaining to anti-discrimination laws.

    Essentially, a homosexual can say or do anything expressing his homosexuality and he is protected from any kind of discrimination with hiring and firing, but a christian quoting pretty much directly out of the bible can be fired for the same thing.

    All I'm saying is we should have a little bit of consistency here. If A&E were to fire a homosexual for saying something homosexual in a non-related magazine, wouldn't everyone lose their ****?
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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