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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You focused on the money part and not onther lack of integrity part.

    If your sexuality was that important to you, you would never let anybody walk all over you like that.

    People used to know things like this.
    Nice that you get to judge me. On one hand I got conservative people telling I need to keep my sexuality to myself or I deserve to be fired and on the other hand I got conservatives telling me I have no integrity unless I am open about my sexuality and risk being fired. Yup. Love it. I am either "pushing my sexuality in people's faces" or I have no integrity and I "let anybody walk all over" me.

    Honestly, you don't have to live with the consequences and you can't put yourself in my shoes, so I don't give a lot of weight to what you have to say about it. You have absolutely no idea what it is like, no conception whatsoever. But you feel entitled to judge and that says enough about you.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    When was the last time you saw us go silent? Never happen. Ever.

    You people eventually die, and the Word of God lives on. Praise the Lord!
    The story of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and La Cucaracha will also live on.

    However society in the U.S. continues to evolve. In not too many years LGBT will have the same status as blacks and it will be off limits to discriminate against them in any shape or form. There will be occasional bouts of racism and homophobia we will largely be rid of it. The church will officially accept LGBT just like they do with blacks and life will go on for the better.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I would be more careful with your words.



    we the people do not decide what is allowed, every citizen has rights, those rights are not subject to "we the people's" approval.

    only when a person has committed a crime, or does something that causes a heath and safety issue to the public does government have the authority to curtail a citizens rights.

    when your on someone's property....you have no exercisable rights...only privileges the owner allows you.

    discrimination is not a crime, and it does not endanger the health or safety of another citizen...

    the 14th amendment states government shall not dicrminate...it says nothing about people or business, because the constitution does not at all limited either of the two.

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    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Nice that you get to judge me. On one hand I got conservative people telling I need to keep my sexuality to myself or I deserve to be fired and on the other hand I got conservatives telling me I have no integrity unless I am open about my sexuality and risk being fired. Yup. Love it. I am either "pushing my sexuality in people's faces" or I have no integrity and I "let anybody walk all over" me.

    Honestly, you don't have to live with the consequences and you can't put yourself in my shoes, so I don't give a lot of weight to what you have to say about it. You have absolutely no idea what it is like, no conception whatsoever. But you feel entitled to judge and that says enough about you.
    Where do you work? I mean, what type of workplace tells you to keep your sexuality to yourself? Why should your sexuality ever come up? At all?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    The story of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and La Cucaracha will also live on.

    However society in the U.S. continues to evolve. In not too many years LGBT will have the same status as blacks and it will be off limits to discriminate against them in any shape or form. There will be occasional bouts of racism and homophobia we will largely be rid of it. The church will officially accept LGBT just like they do with blacks and life will go on for the better.
    the church has pretty much always accepted blacks. After all, they were forced to become christians. Lgbt should not be a protected class and neither shoild blacks. Human should be the only protected class. People should have the right to do business how they please and all people should be equal in the eyes of the LAW. And quit saying "homophobia". Nobody here is afraid of gay people. Thats one of the dumbest labels ive ever seen. Anti gunners are gunphobes, pro abortionists are babyphobes, gays are heterophobes. Its just such a stupid term.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Yeah whatever, Duck man is no longer allowed on tv, case closed.
    Hes not allowed on a&e. Totally different.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Where do you work? I mean, what type of workplace tells you to keep your sexuality to yourself? Why should your sexuality ever come up? At all?
    That is one aspect you Conservative minded folks never really have to think about. You don't think coworkers ask if I have a significant other? You don't think they ask why I am not married or if I am planning to have kids? I have a boyfriend of three years. Do you think I keep his photo on my desk? I have to lie to my coworkers and boss when they ask those kinds of questions.

    That is the problem of viewing homosexuality purely in terms of sex. You folks have no grasp of what it is like to have to hide your most important relationship from everyone you work with day to day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That is one aspect you Conservative minded folks never really have to think about. You don't think coworkers ask if I have a significant other? You don't think they ask why I am not married or if I am planning to have kids? I have a boyfriend of three years. Do you think I keep his photo on my desk? I have to lie to my coworkers and boss when they ask those kinds of questions. That is the problem of viewing homosexuality purely in terms of sex.
    If you are ashamed of your lifestyle, you should probably change it.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    If you are ashamed of your lifestyle, you should probably change it.
    Tried that and I ended up miserable and alone for quite awhile. Now I am in an amazing relationship with a wonderful person. I am not ashamed of my "lifestyle." I am afraid of being judged for it and losing my livelihood.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    When did having an opposing view become intolerant? Seriously, this idea on the right that tolerance = silence is puzzling.

    I don't necessarily agree with A&E's actions here, but your definition of the word "intolerant" is wrong.
    By his definition of intolerance Martin Bashir should've kept his job after he said someone should **** in Sarah Palin's mouth.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    By his definition of intolerance Martin Bashir should've kept his job after he said someone should **** in Sarah Palin's mouth.
    Thank you SB! I wasn't putting my finger on the recent similar case I sort of remembered. Spot on.

    That was a deplorable thing to say and he paid the price for it. Same for the Duck dude.
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