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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    From someone who has an opposing viewpoint to myself, I find this mans' response to be worthwhile reading.

    ...For the record, I’m undecided on whether or not I think Phil actually is homophobic, although I certainly think his statement was offensive, and not only to the LGBT community. But I also think that if I were to spend a day calling ducks with Phil, I’d probably end up liking him—even in spite of his position on gay men. It’s quite possible to throw one’s political support behind traditional, heterosexual marriage, and yet not be bigoted.

    I’m reminded of something Bill Maher said during the height of the Paula Deen controversy: “Do we always have to make people go away?” I think the question applies in this situation, too.

    Why is our go-to political strategy for beating our opponents to silence them? Why do we dismiss, rather than engage them? One of the biggest pop culture icons of today just took center stage to “educate” us about sexuality. I see this as an opportunity to further the discussion, to challenge his limited understanding of human desire, to engage with him and his rather sizeable audience—most of whom, by the way, probably share his views—and to rise above the endless sea of tweet-hate to help move our LGBT conversations to where they need to go.

    GK Chesterton said that bigotry is “an incapacity to conceive seriously the alternative to a proposition.” If he is right—and he usually is—then I wonder if the Duck Dynasty fiasco says more about our bigotry than Phil’s....

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Did you defend Bashir?
    I didn't comment on Bashir's canning, but I don't believe he should have been sacked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    From someone who has an opposing viewpoint to myself, I find this mans' response to be worthwhile reading.
    Libbos are the biggest bigots in the world. They're totally intolerent of anyone who isn't in lockstep with them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Degrading their lifestyle does not help at all...

    Who cares if homosexuality even is a sin? are you Jesus?

    Where does it say in the bible anothers sin falls on you?

    If these people are sinning then they can take that up with their maker.
    Have you never read the Bible, Mr. Nick?

    From Ezekiel chapter 33: “ When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved."

    But stay quiet, and evil will abound:

    “The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to (say and) do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I await your outrage over Martin Bashir's job being taken away.
    Bashir was suspended, but his job was still there.

    He decided to quit.

    Nobody took his job from him.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He is free to express his opinion and make millions doing it no matter who he offends. By contrast, I am not even free to acknowledge at work that I have a boyfriend of 3 years and I have to lie at work when I am asked about whether or not I have a significant other because I could easily be fired. So yeah, I am comparing an asshole expressing his opinion to "work place discrimination" because he certainly has a lot more freedom than I do.
    Why would you want to work at a place like that?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As I said, FOX is leading with Duck and free speech, just after their usual bash on ACA, gov't, and the phoniness of Fox's high-and-mighty attitude about secularism..And Bill-O must repeat three times his bash on ACA for his lemmings..Can I be rude O'Reilly interrupts Carville in his first response?
    Why are you watching Fox if you obviously can't understand much of what they say.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I watched Martin Bashir once. He annoyed the ever-living piss out of me. I didn't even finish watching his segment. I think it's a boon for MSNBC to have canned him... even aside from the factual comment about how a slave owner had his slaves defacate in another slaves mouth. He's a provocative idiot. Calling modern punditry journalism would be the flaw of your question. IMO, comparing Martin Bashir to that duck guy is pretty fair because I think that Martin Bashir probably has about the same level of integrity and class as that guy.
    Please tell us why you think Phil Robertson has no integrity?

    And once again Bashir quit.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    I read the quote and he seems to lump homosexuals with adulterers and womanizers(or is that the same thing). The problem is the gay community is much more organized than the adulterer community, so they can get a call to action going much easier.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Have you never read the Bible, Mr. Nick?

    From Ezekiel chapter 33: “ When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved."

    But stay quiet, and evil will abound:

    “The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to (say and) do nothing.” – Edmund Burke
    And what is so evil about people loving each other?

    In fact... sod it, your "holy" book is not the ground funderment upon which the laws of the land are based.

    And therefor I can chose to ignore the rules set up 3000 years ago by a savage, semi-illiterate, nomadic middle eastern tribe.

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