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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you think the only punishment is related to the Constitution?

    He was removed from the show and if the show continues, where will he be when it is being filmed.

    They have, or are trying to, kick him out of his family.
    People are talking about his "free speech" being abrogated. That is not the case. He was, and is still, free to speak his mind. A&E has the freedom to not have him on their channel if they don't want speech like that on their network. People who disagree with his point of view are free to say that as well.

    None of which is taking away his rights or being "intolerant."

    Nobody has the right to consequence-free speech. I may have the legal right to not like Japanese people, but I might get fired if I say it because the company I work for is owned by a Japanese corporation. (I have no problem with the Japanese, by the way. It's an example). It's still my right to say whatever I want to say.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I doubt God cares how people use their genitals.
    You haven't read the Bible then.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    My experience is most Christians regularly sin but only care about the sins which allow them judge others. I'm not really all that interested in watching someone throw a stone from a glass house.
    You wouldn't have liked John the Baptist or even Jesus, then (Luke 13:3).

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

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    These things are self-evident....
    How is this evident?
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I read it, hence why your attempt to use "tax evasion" and "murder" as examples seemed pretty ludicrous since both of those crimes cause harm.
    Your issue is with that? I would say the clear distinction between murder and tax evasion is pretty evident to the majority of people reading my post.

    It would have made more sense had you tried to list a crime that does not cause harm if you are going to compare it to this situation.
    No, my examples were perfectly fine in showing how categories like "sin" and "crime" are rather broad.

    At it is, you clearly don't understand why people would find it insulting.
    No, I understand why people find it insulting, that doesn't mean their position has any real merit to it. Get over it, some people just disagree with your life choices, just like I am sure you disagree with those of others. That's life, learn to suck it up and stop being so touchy about some bible-thumping redneck saying things anyone would expect from a bible-thumping redneck.

    Also, it doesn't help when you adopt some blatantly false reading of the remarks to justify your outrage. In fact, it simply makes you and your agenda seem like the petty bickering of a spoiled child, as opposed to an individual seeking legitimate recognition for a perfectly justifiable state of existence

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Your issue is with that? I would say the clear distinction between murder and tax evasion is pretty evident to the majority of people reading my post.



    No, my examples were perfectly fine in showing how categories like "sin" and "crime" are rather broad.



    No, I understand why people find it insulting, that doesn't mean their position has any real merit to it. Get over it, some people just disagree with your life choices, just like I am sure you disagree with those of others. That's life, learn to suck it up and stop being so touchy about some bible-thumping redneck saying things anyone would expect from a bible-thumping redneck.

    Also, it doesn't help when you adopt some blatantly false reading of the remarks to justify your outrage. In fact, it simply makes you and your agenda seem like the petty bickering of a spoiled child, as opposed to an individual seeking legitimate recognition for a perfectly justifiable state of existence
    He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.

    That is the impact of his words. You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact. And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said. You can choose to be respectful if you don't agree with homosexuality. He chose to be disrespectful.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually, they're not in agreement with me at all. A&E/TLC have gotten rich off stereotypes. Same goes for History. It's absolutely disgusting that these channels have no interest in actually living up to their name. I actually prefer Nazi-crazy History channel long before the new "living history" History Channel. It's sad.
    Oh man, I used to love the learning channel back when it played shows like connections and the human animal. The same with A&E, they probably introduced me to non-mainstream movies and off beat comedy like their various improv series

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Oh man, I used to love the learning channel back when it played shows like connections and the human animal. The same with A&E, they probably introduced me to non-mainstream movies and off beat comedy like their various improv series
    Agreed, I found Connections fascinating.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.
    Again, is pointing out that both tax evasion and murder are crimes equating them? No, it clearly isn't, so stop peddling the bull****.

    That is the impact of his words.
    Well that's how he and many other people interpret the bible. So what? Are you even religious, and if not who cares?


    You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact.
    Again, no one needs to condone or approve of your life style choices.


    And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said.
    As I pointed out in the beginning all that accomplishes is hurting your agenda, because then you create the perception you're going to force acceptance on people. All that does is foster and invigorate resistance towards a general acceptance, as with abortion and RvsW.

    Just look at how that stupid boycott of chick-a-fila played out

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.

    That is the impact of his words. You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact. And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said. You can choose to be respectful if you don't agree with homosexuality. He chose to be disrespectful.
    Actually, all that is YOUR problem. He wasn't being disrepectful at all, he simply spoke his belief that is firmly based in his religion, a religion and belief shared by perhaps the majority of the people in this nation. He didn't speak of hating the sinner, just the opposite. It was one very small group with a disproportionately large voice who found what he said to be disrespectful.

    Life must be an ongoing series of open wounds for those folks.

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