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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Employees have been fired since forever for creating controversy that the employer does not want. Phil Robertson is famous because of his show on...A&E. Trying to suggest that the interview had nothing to do with them is flat out silly.

I'm sure every employer in the world wants that power, but when applied in practice, you most likely end up with a lawsuit for unlawful termination.
 
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I would call getting someone fired from their job....intolerance.

Truth is Gays don't like being shown their flaws.

Their flaws? Care to explain.
 
'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Yeah... eventually most Americans will be Bible thumping morons that think gays are subhuman. Sure, that'll happen.

Lol
Quite the misinterpretation
 
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Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.

It doesn't look like what he said was all that extreme -- merely that homosexuality is sinful -- unless the article posted in the OP is leaving something out.

A & E appears to have gone too far.
 
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All I'm saying is we should have a little bit of consistency here. If A&E were to fire a homosexual for saying something homosexual in a non-related magazine, wouldn't everyone lose their ****?

You hit the nail on the head. This is why everyone should be very very careful in designating protected classes.
 
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Lol
Quite the misinterpretation

Well, we're batting 1000 here. The other time you quoted me this morning, I asked what you were talkin' about.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

You hit the nail on the head. This is why everyone should be very very careful in designating protected classes.

When Christian BS has been wiped out of the government and Christians are a 10% minority, then those idiots can spew all the crap they want. Why? Because it will not have institutional backing.
 
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I think outspoken evangelism and religiously based intolerance is definitely a Southern trait. Him being a redneck just adds to the stereotype. I think you're getting worked up about the wrong part of the story. This is a guy who gets rich off portraying an ignorant, intolerant, Southern hick and nobody bats an eye. He says 1 thing about homos and it's suddenly cause for debate.

Apparently A&E agree with you. By suspending him, they initiated a debate.
 
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I would call getting someone fired from their job....intolerance.

Truth is Gays don't like being shown their flaws.

Actually, no, look at what he said: “But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.” “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there,” he said. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” (Duck, Duck, Homophobe? ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson SLAMMED As ‘Vile’ After He Declares A Vagina ‘Would Be More Desirable Than A Man)

So what he said was just ridiculous and downright bigoted.
 
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Mind you, I'm pro-SSM and about as anti-religious as one can be, but I'm starting to get a little concerned with the gross imbalance between gay rights and religious rights as pertaining to anti-discrimination laws.

Essentially, a homosexual can say or do anything expressing his homosexuality and he is protected from any kind of discrimination with hiring and firing, but a christian quoting pretty much directly out of the bible can be fired for the same thing.

All I'm saying is we should have a little bit of consistency here. If A&E were to fire a homosexual for saying something homosexual in a non-related magazine, wouldn't everyone lose their ****?

It’s all starting to make sense to me now.

I’ve always been told people that cheat are more concerned others would cheat on them. Those that lie are quicker to assume things told to them are lies.

I think the same thing is happening here.

I have never agreed with the need for laws preventing employers from discriminating on anything they want. If you are full blown racist, discriminate based on racism. I just don’t see a systemic problem arising from such a thing any longer. Our society has advanced enough to tolerate all kinds of viewpoints.

Liberals seem quick to punish people with opposing views. They must think a systemic problem could come about, and it is easy to see why as they seem to want to punish people strongly for holding different views. You say something they don’t like, they will go for your job and your lively hood. So it is only natural they would seek laws to protect them from others acting exactly like they are prone to act.
 
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I'm sure every employer in the world wants that power, but when applied in practice, you most likely end up with a lawsuit for unlawful termination.

Not really, no. Only if the employee was protected from such in their contract.
 
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Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.

His intolerance is OK. But "leftist intolerance" is bad.

You only dislike intolerance when it's intolerant of intolerant views you happen to agree with. Merry Christmas indeed.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Apparently A&E agree with you. By suspending him, they initiated a debate.

Well, no. A&E responded to the debate and the reaction to it they got.
 
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His intolerance is OK. But "leftist intolerance" is bad.

You only dislike intolerance when it's intolerant of intolerant views you happen to agree with. Merry Christmas indeed.

Careful... if you go and tell them hillfolk that intolerance is ok sometimes, they'll start stringin' up gays. They don't really get the concept, it's dangerous.
 
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Actually, no, look at what he said: “But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.” “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there,” he said. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” (Duck, Duck, Homophobe? ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson SLAMMED As ‘Vile’ After He Declares A Vagina ‘Would Be More Desirable Than A Man)

So what he said was just ridiculous and downright bigoted.

But Mr. Invisible, just take white trash culture and morph out from there -- incest, retardation, eating the livers of little children. It can be a slope every bit as slippery as his!


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Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Actually, no, look at what he said: “But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.” “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there,” he said. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” (Duck, Duck, Homophobe? ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson SLAMMED As ‘Vile’ After He Declares A Vagina ‘Would Be More Desirable Than A Man)

So what he said was just ridiculous and downright bigoted.

As long as nobody suggests adding trache-holes or inverted penises to the list of "which is better", I think we are in the clear.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.

What you guys always fail to understand is that true tolerance does not require one to be tolerant of intolerance.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Not really, no. Only if the employee was protected from such in their contract.

Employees need explicit job protection for saying "something controversial"? Who defines that?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Mind you, I'm pro-SSM and about as anti-religious as one can be, but I'm starting to get a little concerned with the gross imbalance between gay rights and religious rights as pertaining to anti-discrimination laws.

Essentially, a homosexual can say or do anything expressing his homosexuality and he is protected from any kind of discrimination with hiring and firing, but a christian quoting pretty much directly out of the bible can be fired for the same thing.

All I'm saying is we should have a little bit of consistency here. If A&E were to fire a homosexual for saying something homosexual in a non-related magazine, wouldn't everyone lose their ****?

I want to point out...he has talked about his faith plenty of times in a personal context. In this passage he's used faith to attack others.

To me it's a pretty easy distinction to make. There's no double standard here...there's just a lot of things in the bible people latch on to which deals more with how others should be treated than how they personally live their life. It's one thing (and ridiculous to say) "I'm not gay because the bible tells me not to be"...it's another to criticize homosexuals.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Actually, no, look at what he said: “But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.” “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there,” he said. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” (Duck, Duck, Homophobe? ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson SLAMMED As ‘Vile’ After He Declares A Vagina ‘Would Be More Desirable Than A Man)

So what he said was just ridiculous and downright bigoted.
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

He also said, about homosexuality:

"It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

He also said, "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

You know who else said gay marriage was a 'moral' issue and one formed by his Christian belief system?

This guy....

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Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

What you guys always fail to understand is that true tolerance does not require one to be tolerant of intolerance.

Well, yea, it kind of does, but I'm tollerant of your need to fit square pegs in round holes.
 
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Not at all....GLAAD, and the rest of them threatened A&E with advertiser targeting, boycotts, picketing etc...They were quite thuggish as the left often is, and forced A&E's decision...Now, do I think A&E were weak ass punks for giving in? Hell yes! But don't try and make it sound like it was just some opinion expressed by these groups without any threats....

Targeting advertisers, boycotts, picketing all are First Amendment rights. Sorry if you don't like the Constitution. The fact of the matter is: People are free to say whatever they want, but they are not free to escape the ramifications of their speech.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Employees need explicit job protection for saying "something controversial"? Who defines that?

The employer. Not sure I really like it, but it is what it is. In this case however, it goes way beyond that, since public perception of the characters of the show could have a significant impact on the companies bottom line. Under that circumstance, wrongful termination would be almost impossible no matter what the laws of that state are or the contract is.
 
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Well, yea, it kind of does, but I'm tollerant of your need to fit square pegs in round holes.

No it doesn't. That is just the failed argument of the right-wing every time they cry about people being held responsibility for their hate speech.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

He also said, about homosexuality:

"It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

He also said, "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

You know who else said gay marriage was a 'moral' issue and one formed by his Christian belief system?

This guy....

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