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    'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well, that is where our opinions on the term "Legitimate" in this context disagree.

    Legal and Legitimate aren't always the same.
    I agree that they aren't the same. I suspect my morality is more complex than yours as I appear to take context into account more so than you appear to. This, I suspect, is our real difference in reasoning.

    In my case, I am balancing rights of multiple interested parties vs the situation vs outcomes and this is where I landed.

    You can't boil my views down to two or three words

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    So you are saying its ok to be intolerant to those who are intolerant against you? Which would then make it ok for them to "defend" themselves thus justifying their intolerances as well. Which then rejustifies your intolerances toward them. Which then rejustifies their intolerances toward you.

    Noticing a pattern here?
    So let me get this straight. Its ok for Duck man to spew hate speech but if anyone fires back at him with the same hate speech they are wrong?

    What dimension are you in? Seriously the blame lies at the feet of him and nobody else, stop deflecting.

    Unclean hands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When you hurt and attack people you lose your right to defense. If you punch somebody in the face they have the right to punch you back.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    After I beat my wife I tell her how I love her and it makes it all ok.
    Whatever floats your boat I guess. Though you probably shouldn't beat your wife.... a big no-no.

    Anyways....This is a quote from Phil during the SAME INTERVIEW:
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil

    “We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.
    Nonsense. It's the sponsors of the show. They pay attention to customers. We need to stop trying to link a political ideology to business. They'll dump something left just as fast. We've seen these types of threads for both.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    I don't care about who people screw or their position on gayness - it's such a non-issue to me and that pisses progresses off - they get so bent when people don't take their position and don't promote their ideas or be a "gay promoting warrior" in this case.

    The best part is that they're now attempting to claim a business (such as A&E) has the right to drop the guy because of what he says - I agree on that completely but I also think it's wrong and misguided to do so.. Yet these are the same people that claim that a baker DOESN'T have the right to refuse a cake to a gay couple.

    Then of course they try to pretend they're reasonable..

    Of course they're probably baffled as to why I called them "gay warriors."

    It seems like being gay is way more of an issue than free speech to progressives - which is ironic within itself...
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Praying in public for all the world to see is just tacky showmanship, something Christ spoke out against, btw.

    Matthew 6:5 - Prayer -
    And yet in Matthew 5:15
    You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden;
    15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
    16 "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    So let me get this straight. Its ok for Duck man to spew hate speech but if anyone fires back at him with the same hate speech they are wrong?

    What dimension are you in? Seriously the blame lies at the feet of him and nobody else, stop deflecting.

    Unclean hands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When you hurt and attack people you lose your right to defense. If you punch somebody in the face they have the right to punch you back.
    He didn't spew hate speech.

    He talked about what is viewed as sin by his religious beliefs. Do you deny that homosexuality is viewed as a sin by Christians and Christian Religious Scripture?

    Im not Christian, and I don't give two ****s about gay folks gettin' married or bein' gay or living gay, etc. Don't care. I do care about Political Correctness gone amuck though......
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't care about who people screw or their position on gayness - it's such a non-issue to me and that pisses progresses off - they get so bent when people don't take their position and don't promote their ideas or be a "gay promoting warrior" in this case.

    The best part is that they're now attempting to claim a business (such as A&E) has the right to drop the guy because of what he says - I agree on that completely but I also think it's wrong and misguided to do so.. Yet these are the same people that claim that a baker DOESN'T have the right to refuse a cake to a gay couple.

    Then of course they try to pretend they're reasonable..

    Of course they're probably baffled as to why I called them "gay warriors."
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No one was attacked by one fellow loosely quoting a biblical scripture in a magazine article. However, since he gave the interview he has been attacked. Calling someone names is not defense.

    And of course you spent most of your post, again, attacking this fellow. Spewing hate and calling names when he did nothing more than express his biblically based personal feelings (that you disagree with) in a magazine article.
    I'm not going to argue this anymore as its getting boring. This same tactic has been going on throughout this thread, and that is to turn it around and play the victim card. Notice how nobody is talking about how the LGBT community feels about this? Nobody gives a **** about the horrible things Duck man said. You're all concerned about his rights, about how he is being treated, he is the victim now. He is the victim of hate speech.

    This is the difference between conservatives and liberals. When we do wrong we will admit it and admonish people for their slights. However when the shoe is on the other foot you guys defend the wrong to the death. This is holding us back as a country because you guys won't be honest when you should.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    So let me get this straight. Its ok for Duck man to spew hate speech but if anyone fires back at him with the same hate speech they are wrong?

    What dimension are you in? Seriously the blame lies at the feet of him and nobody else, stop deflecting.

    Unclean hands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When you hurt and attack people you lose your right to defense. If you punch somebody in the face they have the right to punch you back.
    I am saying that if you have an issue with intolerance, being intolerant is not any type of a solution. Hate does not fix hate. Ignorance doesnt fix ignorance. If you are being an intolerant ass to someone, regardless of who started it, doesnt change that you are an intolerant ass.
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