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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How are their political views relevant? The issue is more about consequences for our freedom of speech and how those consequences are applied not just in this case, but applied in general.
    It's not a "Freedom of Speech" thing. Unless A&E is the government now.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True, but do you think that religious belief is a 'redneck thing'?
    Of course they do. "anyone that clings to their guns and bible" must be a redneck.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How are their political views relevant? The issue is more about consequences for our freedom of speech and how those consequences are applied not just in this case, but applied in general.
    Actually I see this as a chance for CONs the wail and whine over the very thing many CON religious groups do with amazing frequency...

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's not a "Freedom of Speech" thing. Unless A&E is the government now.
    The whole Robertsons family should man up and tell A&E to go pound sand.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Of course they do. "anyone that clings to their guns and bible" must be a redneck.
    OH it takes FAAAAR more than that... read a Jeff Foxsworthy book....

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True, but do you think that religious belief is a 'redneck thing'?
    I think outspoken evangelism and religiously based intolerance is definitely a Southern trait. Him being a redneck just adds to the stereotype. I think you're getting worked up about the wrong part of the story. This is a guy who gets rich off portraying an ignorant, intolerant, Southern hick and nobody bats an eye. He says 1 thing about homos and it's suddenly cause for debate.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    By this ****ing logic I should be able to say whatever I want whenever I want at work.
    Well you can. That doesn't exclude your employer from taking action - ie., consequences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I should be able to call my boss an asshole and the guests who complain about their stay a bunch of whiny bitches and I can get away with it because "free speech".
    You can!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Some of you right wingers have a pretty funny idea about how free speech works.
    What is stopping you from doing it? Oh... the consequences... well there is no law that says you can't call someone, anyone anything you want. That doesn't exclude the consequences for such free speech. I detest speech from the KKK and Al Sharpton alike but they are free to say it and that should remain so. What's so funny about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The gentleman works for A&E.

    They can fire him if they want to.
    Of course - consequences... It sounds like we agree....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The whole Robertsons family should man up and tell A&E to go pound sand.
    Plenty of other channels who would love the Duckers to come on over. the Christian Broadcasting Network would LOVE to have 'em. Might be a cut in pay but if they are now able to say what they want- that's priceless.....

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well you can. That doesn't exclude your employer from taking action - ie., consequences.

    You can!

    What is stopping you from doing it? Oh... the consequences... well there is no law that says you can't call someone, anyone anything you want. That doesn't exclude the consequences for such free speech. I detest speech from the KKK and Al Sharpton alike but they are free to say it and that should remain so. What's so funny about it?

    Of course - consequences... It sounds like we agree....
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How are their political views relevant? The issue is more about consequences for our freedom of speech and how those consequences are applied not just in this case, but applied in general.
    There are consequences to any freedom of speech.

    If I walk into a restaurant and start a loud discourse on any subject, they can kick me out. That is not suppression of free speech, that is a business doing what it must to prevent other paying customers from walking away.
    If I work on a TV show, and say all Christians should be executed, the network has the right to fire me.
    If I am standing on the street corner saying that aliens are coming and want to do anal probes on all Americans. People can call me a lunatic.

    Those are the consequences of my speech. If you are not willing to deal with the consequences of what you put out there, then maybe you should edit what you say. No one is required to appreciate, or approve of, what you or I say. And no one is required to give you a platform to speak from.
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