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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    A more eloquent speaker would have replaced happy with content, but here people are, putting words in the man's mouth in order to find fault, for what? To elevate themselves by looking down their noses at someone who is different.
    Interestingly, most people are happy (content) until we tell them they are not. Seems to be very lucrative these days.
    True. Problem is that today's liberal progressive wants to make grievence an industry that expands beyond the usual suspects Sharpton, and Jackson.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True. Problem is that today's liberal progressive wants to make grievence an industry that expands beyond the usual suspects Sharpton, and Jackson.
    We see this not just in the Sharptons , but many on both sides make a decent living by telling their audience how unhappy they must be.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Would it be fair to say that in America in the late 50's/early 60s, that there possibly could have been some black people that were not into the strife? That were not concerned with what was going on with the publicized struggle? That just simply wanted to live their lives and be left alone, and could have very well have been happy in their compartmentalized situation at the time, and couldn't have cared less about what was happening in Selma, or Atlanta, or DC for that matter? And if you have to say honestly that this is possible, then why is it impossible for you and other liberals believe that these could have been the blacks that a young Phil Robertson was in contact with?

    Why don't you stop pretending that you know the thoughts, and hearts of every black person in the United States 50 plus years ago....It's insulting, and it is dishonest.
    It also reveals ignorance of rural Louisiana, IMO. As I've said, chopping cotton is a great equalizer, and Phil Robertson chopped cotton. He spoke of his experience working alongside others who did.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True. Problem is that today's liberal progressive wants to make grievence an industry that expands beyond the usual suspects Sharpton, and Jackson.
    Make it an industry? It already is an industry with an army of attorneys.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    It also reveals ignorance of rural Louisiana, IMO. As I've said, chopping cotton is a great equalizer, and Phil Robertson chopped cotton. He spoke of his experience working alongside others who did.
    No argument there...I just have to wonder why it is that so many progressives have to make an obvious hit piece article, from title, to last sentence, a focus of such outrage if not manufactured, and why people with even the slightest can't see the propaganda right before their own eyes.

    Make it an industry? It already is an industry with an army of attorneys.
    Yeah, you have a point there as well...But, at least in the past most people heard 'Fashion Freddy's Sharpton' or 'Super Jessie' and just rolled their eyes, now we have exaulted a "community organizer'' to the highest office in the land that preached racial unity in his bid for the Presidency, yet immediately, and perpetually has chosen every opportunity to stoke the flames of racial divide. So, you are correct. It is an industry, and getting worse.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    1. His statement was of his personal experience. You can make any claim that it was delusional or inaccurate.
    2. You wouldn't present wildly delusional and inaccurate answers? That is apparently all you have provided.


    Yes your reply is sorry as it is wrong.

    The question was about a specific time period, just as the answer was.
    No comparison was made. None.

    To say a comparison was made is dishonest garbage, and nothing more than the result of convoluted and biased thoughts.
    Being a personal delusion doesn't make it not a comparison. I'm sorry you are so badly mistaken; he was clear on the pre, which makes it a comparison. No honest way around that.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think he was being serious while answering it, and shame on Magary trying to pose qhuestions in such a way as to be able to obviously parse, and twist their answers meaning later. But allow me to illustrate this way....I'll use emoticons to aid in the illustration...

    When Magary asks the question, and Phil repeats the question to him clearly, he is displaying a little subdued shock that Magary would ask such a stupid question, so he then answers thusly

    'They were giddy, they were happy, they were not singing the blues...'

    See how that works?

    Like if I asked you why 'all liberals hate freedom'? and you answer

    " all liberals, you say, hate freedom?"

    ' oh yeah, They're communists, they're Nazi's, lamo, they can't stand you walking around free. '

    Now, would anyone believe that you were in fact saying that liberals were communists, Nazi's, or hated your freedom? No. But that is what you are doing to Phil Robertson, and it is dishonest.



    Would it be fair to say that in America in the late 50's/early 60s, that there possibly could have been some black people that were not into the strife? That were not concerned with what was going on with the publicized struggle? That just simply wanted to live their lives and be left alone, and could have very well have been happy in their compartmentalized situation at the time, and couldn't have cared less about what was happening in Selma, or Atlanta, or DC for that matter? And if you have to say honestly that this is possible, then why is it impossible for you and other liberals believe that these could have been the blacks that a young Phil Robertson was in contact with?

    Why don't you stop pretending that you know the thoughts, and hearts of every black person in the United States 50 plus years ago....It's insulting, and it is dishonest.
    Oh, I think you're reading into it to feel better about it. And you could find some exceptions is neither here nor there, the fact was over all, it wasn't just peachy or keen.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    False. That would require comparative language such as "happier". Unfortunately for your argument the comparative term "happier" only exists in the headline written by someone other than Phil Robertson.

    If I say you were "happy" yesterday morning I am not comparing you to any other time, I am simply making an observation of your state of mind.





    Again false. Without the comparative language there is no comparison. He was simply bearing witness to the black people he grew up with who he said were happy and Godly which the insane left took to mean he's a racist.





    Phil's answer was drawn from and with regard to the black people he grew up with as a dirt poor child picking cotton. If you have to change your wording to "better off" then you really can't object to Phil's statement as Phil has experience and you don't regarding how happy people were on the farms where he worked. Notice how you have just severed the connection in your own answer between "better off" and "happy", it's time you do the same for Robertson's answer.

    Here in lies the tragic flaw of your side of the argument. Phil Robertson speaks of happiness, your side reads it as "better off" and let the person who wrote the headline force a comparison that Robertson never made.

    In other words, your side is the perfect image of raging, illogical intolerance that you pretend to defend the world against.
    No, it wouldn't. If you say they were happy before welfare, you've made a comparison. I'm sorry you guts keep trying make excuses for him.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [SIZE=5RIGHT ON!!!![/SIZE] That is exactly right....And couldn't have summed it up better....

    Note to libs on this thread....Read this from JM, live it, love it! This is what is happening exactly.
    Here ya go then...I'll say this;
    Redneck racist assholes in the south were happy before civil rights legislation gave black people an equal legal footing.
    Redneck racist assholes in the south were happy when lynching and church burnings were common place in the south.
    See ... I didn't say anything untrue that wasn't easily observable at the time.
    Live it and love it... It works both ways.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Being a personal delusion doesn't make it not a comparison.
    Your personal wildly delusional assertions are wrong.

    and inaccuratedelusion shows exactly that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm sorry you are so badly mistaken;
    You can't even get this right.
    You are sorry because you are mistaken.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    he was clear on the pre, which makes it a comparison.
    Wrong. Pre is a time period, not a comparison.
    There was no comparison.
    Pre does not signify any comparison.

    So again.
    If we we discussing the Precambrian period of time would you illogically argue we were trying to make a comparison between then and the Cambrian?
    Of course you wouldn't. We would be speaking a specific time period. Not a comparison.

    Which shows your assertion regarding Phil to be nothing more than the manifestation of garbage in your thoughts.



    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No honest way around that.
    Wrong. There is nothing honest in what you said.
    There was no comparison.
    He answered a question about specific time period. Period.

    You are wrong and are purposely being dishonest.
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