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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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I don't necessarily agree with A&E's actions here, but your definition of the word "intolerant" is wrong.

The correct word here is "hatred". Leftists hate freedom of speech and are doing everything to destroy it.
 
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Why is it sad that they have the right?

Its sad that it gets abused in this "politically correct" world.

This does NOT mean I would EVER support legislation changing it.
 
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What law are they violating?

None. I didn't claim they did.

There is a difference between being LEGAL and being RIGHT.

It maybe LEGAL to fire someone in certain states for any reason one cares to have..... doesn't mean it is RIGHT.
 
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You got caught displaying the same behavior that you SAY you revile in those on the other side of fence. There's no twist there. In fact it's illustrative of the entire issue. The pro gay folks have no problem squealing out insults at the same time they're complaining about being insulted.

No, no, NO. Stop twisting. Stop. It. Now.

DEFENDING yourself from an attacker is NOT ATTACKING.

If Duck man and others want to attack LGBT then they will be counter attacked as ignorant hillbilly uneducated inbred hicks. That is not hypocrisy that is self defense.

I don't remember any "pro gay" folk going after Duck man prior to this... do you? Do you remember "pro gay" folk attacking conservatives for no good reason? No, they never do. They only attack in self defense. They only attack when provoked, discriminated against.

This chasm of being intolerant of the intolerant nonsense is out of control.
 
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Of course he will be back. This is a cooling off period to make it seem like something was done till it falls off the public consciousness. Was anyone Suspecting anything else?

Meanwhile if some half naked woman were making out on TV at 7AM over a bowl of cereal when your kids were expecting cartoons these progressives wouldn't be ashamed at all - they would call that progress..

I just think it's amazing how some **** is tolerated and other stuff isn't, and progressives control that...

I just think pointing fingers is wrong when progressives don't even see the faults in their own logic - and their logic is mainstream - it's called political correctness.

I'm more boggled now that they cant accept what I'm telling them.
 
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None. I didn't claim they did.

There is a difference between being LEGAL and being RIGHT.

It maybe LEGAL to fire someone in certain states for any reason one cares to have..... doesn't mean it is RIGHT.

They are not beholden to society beyond some very basic social contract concerns that everyone has a duty to. thus they retain their legitimacy.
 
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There was no hate speech..... and you can't back it up so you insult me and run away.

LoL, there was no hate speech? Listen up everyone, there was NO HATE SPEECH, everyone pack your bags and leave this thread, this is all a figment of your imagination. :lamo
 
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Why I KNOW. Golly...we are literally WADING through the many varied threads and steady stream of commentary here. LITERALLY tripping over them up in this beeeyotch.

Right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

IOW, you got nothing.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

LoL, there was no hate speech? Listen up everyone, there was NO HATE SPEECH, everyone pack your bags and leave this thread, this is all a figment of your imagination. :lamo

Nope... None.

He clearly said he loves all humanity.... or did you forget that part?
 
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They are not beholden to society beyond some very basic social contract concerns that everyone has a duty to. thus they retain their legitimacy.

So would it also be legitimate for CriticalThought to be fired shortly after coming out of the closet because he lives in a state where one can be fired from work for any reason?
 
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The correct word here is "hatred". Leftists hate freedom of speech and are doing everything to destroy it.

They're certainly trying to control what ideas can be promoted and without question regulate speech like the fascists they are.

It really angers me...

I'd never advocate muting them...

The problem with progressives is that they cant logically justify their position - so there is no debate... They run on emotions not logic...
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

No, no, NO. Stop twisting. Stop. It. Now.

DEFENDING yourself from an attacker is NOT ATTACKING.

If Duck man and others want to attack LGBT then they will be counter attacked as ignorant hillbilly uneducated inbred hicks. That is not hypocrisy that is self defense.

I don't remember any "pro gay" folk going after Duck man prior to this... do you? Do you remember "pro gay" folk attacking conservatives for no good reason? No, they never do. They only attack in self defense. They only attack when provoked, discriminated against.

This chasm of being intolerant of the intolerant nonsense is out of control.
They attack us because we think that the family is the union of man and woman.:(
 
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The LGBT activist are now going after the ducks !

If heterosexuality isn't a choice, why aren't straight men not allowed to talk like straight men ?

How far is the loony left going to take this BS to ?

Who's next ?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

No, no, NO. Stop twisting. Stop. It. Now.

DEFENDING yourself from an attacker is NOT ATTACKING.

If Duck man and others want to attack LGBT then they will be counter attacked as ignorant hillbilly uneducated inbred hicks. That is not hypocrisy that is self defense.

I don't remember any "pro gay" folk going after Duck man prior to this... do you? Do you remember "pro gay" folk attacking conservatives for no good reason? No, they never do. They only attack in self defense. They only attack when provoked, discriminated against.

This chasm of being intolerant of the intolerant nonsense is out of control.

So you are saying its ok to be intolerant to those who are intolerant against you? Which would then make it ok for them to "defend" themselves thus justifying their intolerances as well. Which then rejustifies your intolerances toward them. Which then rejustifies their intolerances toward you.

Noticing a pattern here?
 
'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

So would it also be legitimate for CriticalThought to be fired shortly after coming out of the closet because he lives in a state where one can be fired from work for any reason?

As things currentl are, being gay is not a protected class in most places. I wouldn't like it as I personally think Phil shouldn't have been suspended either, but yes it would be legitimate.

I may even try to do something about it, but that has no bearing on the legitimacy either.
 
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Nope... None.

He clearly said he loves all humanity.... or did you forget that part?

After I beat my wife I tell her how I love her and it makes it all ok. :lol:
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

No, no, NO. Stop twisting. Stop. It. Now.

DEFENDING yourself from an attacker is NOT ATTACKING.

If Duck man and others want to attack LGBT then they will be counter attacked as ignorant hillbilly uneducated inbred hicks. That is not hypocrisy that is self defense.

I don't remember any "pro gay" folk going after Duck man prior to this... do you? Do you remember "pro gay" folk attacking conservatives for no good reason? No, they never do. They only attack in self defense. They only attack when provoked, discriminated against.

This chasm of being intolerant of the intolerant nonsense is out of control.

No one was attacked by one fellow loosely quoting a biblical scripture in a magazine article. However, since he gave the interview he has been attacked. Calling someone names is not defense.

And of course you spent most of your post, again, attacking this fellow. Spewing hate and calling names when he did nothing more than express his biblically based personal feelings (that you disagree with) in a magazine article.
 
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As things currentl are, being gay is not a protected class in most places. I wouldn't like it as I personally think Phil shouldn't have been suspended either, but yes it would be legitimate.

I may even try to do something about it, but that has no bearing on the legitimacy either.

Well, that is where our opinions on the term "Legitimate" in this context disagree.

Legal and Legitimate aren't always the same.
 
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No they didn't, the family are self made multimillionaires.
No one heard of him before A&E put them on TV.
Lots of millionaires are not famous.
Lots of millionaires do not feel the need to pretend to be ignorant in an attempt to become famous.
Lots of millionaires are not assholes.
Their run of fame has peaked with the absurd merchandising promoted this Christmas season.
A&E are well aware of this and when he started acting like an asshole outside of their editing control they didn't want to be associated with this loudmouth bigot anymore.
A&E made a smart business decision and cut their losses.
The big losers are the audience who believed this bigoted asshole is really a religious backward hillbilly.
Within a year no one will remember who they are.
 
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How is it "over the top", they are not forcing it on anyone. They are not praying for the downfall of anyone.

Praying in public for all the world to see is just tacky showmanship, something Christ spoke out against, btw.

Matthew 6:5 - Prayer -
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
 
'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Well, that is where our opinions on the term "Legitimate" in this context disagree.

Legal and Legitimate aren't always the same.

I agree that they aren't the same. I suspect my morality is more complex than yours as I appear to take context into account more so than you appear to. This, I suspect, is our real difference in reasoning.

In my case, I am balancing rights of multiple interested parties vs the situation vs outcomes and this is where I landed.

You can't boil my views down to two or three words :)
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

So you are saying its ok to be intolerant to those who are intolerant against you? Which would then make it ok for them to "defend" themselves thus justifying their intolerances as well. Which then rejustifies your intolerances toward them. Which then rejustifies their intolerances toward you.

Noticing a pattern here?

So let me get this straight. Its ok for Duck man to spew hate speech but if anyone fires back at him with the same hate speech they are wrong?

What dimension are you in? Seriously the blame lies at the feet of him and nobody else, stop deflecting.

Unclean hands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When you hurt and attack people you lose your right to defense. If you punch somebody in the face they have the right to punch you back.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

After I beat my wife I tell her how I love her and it makes it all ok. :lol:

Whatever floats your boat I guess. Though you probably shouldn't beat your wife.... a big no-no.

Anyways....This is a quote from Phil during the SAME INTERVIEW:
Phil said:
“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”
 
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Leftist intolerance is on full display this year....Merry Christmas.

Nonsense. It's the sponsors of the show. They pay attention to customers. We need to stop trying to link a political ideology to business. They'll dump something left just as fast. We've seen these types of threads for both.
 
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I don't care about who people screw or their position on gayness - it's such a non-issue to me and that pisses progresses off - they get so bent when people don't take their position and don't promote their ideas or be a "gay promoting warrior" in this case.

The best part is that they're now attempting to claim a business (such as A&E) has the right to drop the guy because of what he says - I agree on that completely but I also think it's wrong and misguided to do so.. Yet these are the same people that claim that a baker DOESN'T have the right to refuse a cake to a gay couple.

Then of course they try to pretend they're reasonable..

Of course they're probably baffled as to why I called them "gay warriors."

It seems like being gay is way more of an issue than free speech to progressives - which is ironic within itself...
 
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