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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that I was clear....A&E is bending to majority rule, as most businesses would be expected to.
    No they are following their business model as explained in their decision about Mr. Robertson. A business doesnt just react to what the majority wants, they actually have a plan. "His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community." they were asserting that their marketing plan intends not to offend any viewers.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No they are following their business model as explained in their decision about Mr. Robertson. A business doesnt just react to what the majority wants, they actually have a plan. "His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community." they were asserting that their marketing plan intends not to offend any viewers.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Once again you are arguing about what did not say.
    Really? So you didn't say:

    "The Bible says a lot of things we no longer accept. Nor should we."

    Why do you try to weasel out of your own words when they are in black and white?

    I've been sure how to deal with as you don't listen when I point it out.
    What this dyslexic sentence means I am not sure.

    1) the author and the article mean very little to me.
    Hmmmm...Which is why I said:

    "But that is beside the point."

    I guess you missed it.

    2) I did not tell anyone what to believe.
    Again, reference the above statement:

    "The Bible says a lot of things we no longer accept. Nor should we."

    3) what he said smacks of bigotry.
    The definition of bigotry is such:

    big·ot·ry (bg-tr)
    n.
    The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.

    So, now before we go any further the onus is on you to explain in context how Phil's "attitude, state of mind, behavior characteristic, or how it was intolerant" that he answered what the bible characterizes as a sin is? If you think that the bible is bigoted then you characterize all Christians that believe in the bible as bigots, and that sir, makes you the bigot.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? So you didn't say:

    "The Bible says a lot of things we no longer accept. Nor should we."

    Why do you try to weasel out of your own words when they are in black and white?



    What this dyslexic sentence means I am not sure.



    Hmmmm...Which is why I said:

    "But that is beside the point."

    I guess you missed it.



    Again, reference the above statement:

    "The Bible says a lot of things we no longer accept. Nor should we."



    The definition of bigotry is such:

    big·ot·ry (bg-tr)
    n.
    The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.

    So, now before we go any further the onus is on you to explain in context how Phil's "attitude, state of mind, behavior characteristic, or how it was intolerant" that he answered what the bible characterizes as a sin is? If you think that the bible is bigoted then you characterize all Christians that believe in the bible as bigots, and that sir, makes you the bigot.
    Nor should we is merely an opinion. It is not telling people what they should believe. You take beyond its meaning. 2)

    1) I know.

    2) not what that means.

    3) blacks were happier being discriminated against. State of mind. Selective use of bible to be against homosexuals while ignoring other things as we do today (IMHO, he has misread the bible, but that's another debate), thus intolerance. Not able to see his selectivity.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, if he had relied on biblical passages supportive of slavery, then that would have absolved him of being intolerant to people of color
    only to you and those like you, such as the westboro baptist church, which has announced its intent to picket A&E in support of phil robertson, would offer up such an outlandish proposition that slavery is acceptable because the bible says so
    Actually, slavery is universal in the bible. It doesnt apply to any color group.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nor should we is merely an opinion. It is not telling people what they should believe. You take beyond its meaning.
    I'm pretty sure that if this conversation were in person, among a group of people, your addition of "nor should we" wouldn't be taken as a simple opinion, and even so, an opinion expressing what ''we" should, or shouldn't do, believe, accept. That not only makes you a semantic arguer, but rather dishonest in this particular argument.

    1) I know.
    You know what?

    2) not what that means.
    So, now you're telling me what I mean....That's fantastic.

    3) blacks were happier being discriminated against. State of mind.
    Show me where he thought that.

    Selective use of bible to be against homosexuals while ignoring other things as we do today
    You don't get to pick and choose....The bible is not a document you can twist to your own means...It either says homosexuality is a sin, or it doesn't...It isn't up to interpretation of the times.

    (IMHO, he has misread the bible, but that's another debate)
    Opinion noted.

    thus intolerance.
    You're seeing what you want to see. It's not there.

    Not able to see his selectivity.
    That's because you don't know what you are talking about....Understandable.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ever heard you can't please all the people all the time?
    WHy yes that is pretty obvious, just look at all the pissed rednecks right now. Houston mayor weighs in on 'Duck Dynasty' feud; A&E claims it's received death threats since Phil Robertson's suspension | abc13.com

    "Houston Mayor Annise Parker, the first openly gay mayor of a major U.S. city, is expressing her opinion on the subject.

    Parker sent a Tweet on Saturday, stating, "When i called Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty 'a redneck wingnut whose views are completely irrelevant' I was serious. Who cares?-A."

    That Tweet came on the heels of a report by Lone Star Q, a statewide LGBT news source, that quoted Parker as saying, "What some redneck wingnut has to say about the GLBT community is completely irrelevant."

    Parker's remarks prompted Sid Miller, Republican candidate for Texas Agriculture Commissioner, to call for an apology "to the millions of Conservative Christians who live in Houston and Texas," according to a statement released Saturday.

    "Just because Annise Parker believes Phil Robertson's comments are irrelevant doesn't mean that many of her constituents don't only consider them to be relevant, but also timely," Miller said.
    "

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'm pretty sure that if this conversation were in person, among a group of people, your addition of "nor should we" wouldn't be taken as a simple opinion, and even so, an opinion expressing what ''we" should, or shouldn't do, believe, accept. That not only makes you a semantic arguer, but rather dishonest in this particular argument.



    You know what?



    So, now you're telling me what I mean....That's fantastic.



    Show me where he thought that.



    You don't get to pick and choose....The bible is not a document you can twist to your own means...It either says homosexuality is a sin, or it doesn't...It isn't up to interpretation of the times.



    Opinion noted.



    You're seeing what you want to see. It's not there.



    That's because you don't know what you are talking about....Understandable.
    Yes it would, even among conservatives. We actually sit down and have these conversations.

    1) know what you said. Read the one you wrote.

    2) no, I'm telling you that you inaccurately interpreted what I said. You're doing it again now.

    3) read above. We've been talking about it. It was in the same interview.

    No, the intolerance is there. You're just willful blind to it.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Hot off the presses boys.

    Phil Robertson reinstated on A&E.

    LOL!

    Phil Robertson to Return to Duck Dynasty |
    The market at work.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    So I decided to read the GQ article which apparently started this? Am I correct in that? Well Wikipedia thinks so...

    Now I have to ask.

    What the HELL is all the fuss about?


    Edit: Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour


    Edit 2: I mean, sure, the comments regarding gay people were a bit....questionable....but they seem kinda standard for someone who (apparently, from the article) is quite conservative, religiously. He came across to me as just not understanding the issue very well.

    As for the "racism", I saw none. The comments which are pointed out as racist are not.
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