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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Hat people routinely abandon their principals when their culture is at stake.
    who are hat people?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    cool. we agree this was an overreaction.
    Nope we don't. It is the logical reaction based on past history. It's only illogical to those that pretend history wasn't as intolerant as it was and still is given this guys foolishness.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you are making assumptions.

    some people make decisions based not on money, but on what they think is right or wrong.

    you assumed this was about economics, but you have no proof. you are arguing from a position of ignorance, but carry on
    Being that you are so obtuse I have no choice but to assume whatever it is you're trying to say.

    Are you saying A&E did this because of "principles" rather than money?

    Are you saying had they not suspended him in a PR move they would have taken less damage with that strategy? This is standard fare btw, you suspend the guy, there's a big hubbub about it for a while, it blows over and then you take the guy back and carry on as though nothing happened. He will be back, the show will go on, unless he loses his cool and throws a tantrum and the whole thing falls apart.

    Is it really "ignorant" to assume this was about economics? Seriously? You think tv shows have a bottom line other than profits? You think A&E's shareholders are more concerned about principles? Give me a break.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    This is a quote of his..the normal "homosexual is fine...then everything goes" argument. Do you think a homosexual on TV would be fired for saying "one moment it's going to church the next it's enslaving others, stoning women..." you get the picture. Sure he would.

    Also I'm not sure it fits into law about discrimination...he's not being discriminated due to being a religious guy...he's being suspended because of words he said.
    He's being suspended because the words he said were religious, and others didn't like it. I'm actually pretty sure a homosexual could say the above statement without being fired. There's an obvious imbalance when it comes to discrimination laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Life isn't a flat line, it's a wavy one. After years of homosexuality being demonized, it's only appropriate for the wave to sway equally in the other direction for a while. Evenso it's not nearly as big a wave, yet, as it was when it was rigidly close minded.
    Yes, I realize there are under-corrections and over-corrections, but that doesn't mean we need to condone an obvious over-correction like this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I believe most people in regular shows have imbedded in their contracts clauses that indicate they cannot bring any untoward attention to themselves in such a way as to harm viewership. It used to be called a morality clause, I think, though morality had little to do with it. Seems Charlie Sheen, that cooking lady and her n'word, and now this guy, probably more we haven't heard about.
    And what do you think would happen if an employer made a contract saying "You're not allowed to say anything homosexual"? Hint: People would lose their ****.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what do you think would happen if an employer made a contract saying "You're not allowed to say anything homosexual"? Hint: People would lose their ****.
    The contracts are not that specific. And if someone basically came out and said that heterosexual men were all neanderthals, I'm pretty sure they'd be fired as well. Usually the contract indicates that one should not bring untoward attention to themselves that might negatively effect the show. That could be anything as noted by the recent issues with Charlie Sheen and the cooking lady that was careless in using the n'word during temper moments.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Nope we don't. It is the logical reaction based on past history. It's only illogical to those that pretend history wasn't as intolerant as it was and still is given this guys foolishness.
    So equally in the other direction means what then?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    who are hat people?
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    The contracts are not that specific. And if someone basically came out and said that heterosexual men were all neanderthals, I'm pretty sure they'd be fired as well. Usually the contract indicates that one should not bring untoward attention to themselves that might negatively effect the show. That could be anything as noted by the recent issues with Charlie Sheen and the cooking lady that was careless in using the n'word during temper moments.
    You're right, they're not specific, intentionally, so that they can be a catch-all to interpret as they please. It's kind of like how the military uses "conduct non-becoming of an NCO" to nail people for all kinds of things that weren't against any rules.

    This however isn't about a contract. An employer can fire any employee for "embarassing the company" without a contract. This is about discrimination laws and their imbalanced enforcement. He said something stereotypically christian and was fired for it. If someone said something stereotypically homosexual, they would be protected under discrimination laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    The contracts are not that specific. And if someone basically came out and said that heterosexual men were all neanderthals, I'm pretty sure they'd be fired as well.
    I don't think that would happen at all. Has that EVER happened?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Being that you are so obtuse I have no choice but to assume whatever it is you're trying to say.
    Personal attack duly noted.

    Are you saying A&E did this because of "principles" rather than money?
    It is certainly possible. Did the father that got suspended do what he did for money, or for principles?

    Is it really "ignorant" to assume this was about economics? Seriously.
    Yes.

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