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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Wonderful...you picked and chose a handful of links. Now...how many people here that are critical of Phil Robinson are consistently critical of the steady stream of bigotry and hatred that so regularly (apparently) flows from democrats? And I mean SPECIFICALLY right here? How many of those incidents you cited created the kind of furor over Phil Robinsons accurate and commonly held comments? How many people here were incited to hatred over the large number of democrat backing ministers objected strenuously to Obamas election time 'evolution'? And you want to pretend the response is even REMOTELY equal? Pleeeeaasseee...

:lamo
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I was spot on with all the counter examples. You just don't case to look at this neutrally

There is a total difference between customers boycotting something and companies releasing people (firing them) for PC reasons.

Customers/Consumers are, at least in my view, permitted free range to boycott something all they want and it not be WRONG in my view.

A company, while legally they can do this as well, is just wrong to fire someone for a personal belief they had that they shared outside of that work area, again... in my opinion.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

That's just it, it wasn't the viewing audience complaining. And no, shows are designed for target audiences.

Yes for a target audience but they also do everything they can to hedge and get anyone else to watch that they can. My daughter likes the show "Reba", it has pretty obvious conservative overtones, however they never cross the line so everyone is able to enjoy the show, not just conservatives.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Not when they are being compared in the PROPER ****ING CONTEXT.

He was talking about S I N

Which all three have in common, being sins.

Are you tired of talking to a wall yet?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

A&E made this asshole a household name.
They have the prerogative to take it away if they so choose.

No they didn't, the family are self made multimillionaires.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Wait, are you suggesting tv shows are a business designed to make money from advertisers? Holy crap! Learn somethin 'new every day. Thanks for clearing that up. I thoughted they just make the funnies 4 me for free, cuz I'm a commie.

Yet you don't understand that you only support politicians because they give you money...

You donate 5 bucks to them and they let everyone live off the working class that makes 40k or more for life......

I love how you progressives are only sharp when you want to be - or when it suits your argument or gives you an opportunity to mock someone.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I find it hilarious that Sarah "Hello Quitty" Palin is all up in arms about this, but....she wanted Martin Bashir fired, didn't she?

Hypocrisy, she's soaking in it!

I'm not sure a red neck reality-tv star is expected to adhere to the same code of professional conduct as a professional journalist. Especially when we compare the fact Bashir made his comments on his actual show.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

There is a total difference between customers boycotting something and companies releasing people (firing them) for PC reasons.

Customers/Consumers are, at least in my view, permitted free range to boycott something all they want and it not be WRONG in my view.

A company, while legally they can do this as well, is just wrong to fire someone for a personal belief they had that they shared outside of that work area, again... in my opinion.

If it's just a personal moral concern. I don't care.

I am looking at this from a business and societal perspective.

My personal opinion is that A&E shouldn't have done this as there was no need for it.

However they have every right to and legitimately so.
 
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If you read my posts in the thread you will see where I stated the belief that the network made a bad business call

Sorry if I mischaracterized your argument.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I find it hilarious that Sarah "Hello Quitty" Palin is all up in arms about this, but....she wanted Martin Bashir fired, didn't she?

Hypocrisy, she's soaking in it!

I love how ironic your post is...

You merely are proving my point...
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Exactly, if some people are offended they can boycott the show.... "Suspending" him is just pandering to special interests.

He'll be back on the air without question - this has angered lots of people...

Of course he will be back. This is a cooling off period to make it seem like something was done till it falls off the public consciousness. Was anyone Suspecting anything else?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

What is this a nursery? I'm not going to read you a story at your bedside. You can search for and read the quotes yourself, its barely two paragraphs. I've also explained in this thread what I consider hate speech using what Duck man said.

There was no hate speech..... and you can't back it up so you insult me and run away.

 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I find it hilarious that Sarah "Hello Quitty" Palin is all up in arms about this, but....she wanted Martin Bashir fired, didn't she?

Hypocrisy, she's soaking in it!

Aaaaaandddd....

She is a dumb ****. So.... WGAF?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Wonderful...you picked and chose a handful of links. Now...how many people here that are critical of Phil Robinson are consistently critical of the steady stream of bigotry and hatred that so regularly (apparently) flows from democrats? And I mean SPECIFICALLY right here? How many of those incidents you cited created the kind of furor over Phil Robinsons accurate and commonly held comments? How many people here were incited to hatred over the large number of democrat backing ministers objected strenuously to Obamas election time 'evolution'? And you want to pretend the response is even REMOTELY equal? Pleeeeaasseee...

:lamo

Plenty of people on DP were (and still are) strongly critical of democrats (including Obama, both Clintons and others) who have failed to defend (or who have opposed) equal rights for homosexuals, myself included.
 
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Of course he will be back. This is a cooling off period to make it seem like something was done till it falls off the public consciousness. Was anyone Suspecting anything else?

Not sure. Duck dynasty seems to be one of those shows that people of many stripes like. I think the show is great.


That may have factored into the decision.
 
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Hence the show only exists because of advertising and that is precisely my point...

Why do you think a lot of people thought TV was a stupid invention in the first place? then advertisers figured they could sell their products....

TV shows were invented just for advertisements.... Radio commercially the same - the applications of both TV and radio are without question useful (I'm not even trying to make that argument)....

Doesnt change that Yes they care if you entertained, or in this case offensive. Someone within A&E wieghed the advantages of suspending vs ignoring and did what they thought was best for their company. In the end, advertisers don't pull ads because their morals were violated, they pull ads because they fear people will stop using their products by affiliation. In the end, they are both manipulating consumers in any way they need to to move their products. In the end it is the person sitting on the couch watching the tv who's opinion matters.
 
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Yes, I understand that. You understand their celebrity status has made them millions upon millions of dollars each year, in addition to the extra money they make in sales due to increased visibility, right?

My experience is most Christians regularly sin but only care about the sins which allow them judge others. I'm not really all that interested in watching someone throw a stone from a glass house.

I doubt it. Sure, it might hurt ad revenue during that particular time slot, but a negative impact on reputation would hurt ad revenue on all time slots.
Dood still lives in the same house he always has. Granted his family cumulatively is enormously wealthy but that was do to their family business, and not the A&E show. More? Sure...but not relevant or needed. Marketing is always good...but they didnt need the help. Thats why A&E went to them in the first place.

Re that whole 'sin' thing...you DID see that he was talking about ALL sin, recognizing we ALL fall short, right?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Yet you don't understand that you only support politicians because they give you money...

You donate 5 bucks to them and they let everyone live off the working class that makes 40k or more for life......

I love how you progressives are only sharp when you want to be - or when it suits your argument or gives you an opportunity to mock someone.

I don't support any politician financially and they don't give me money, I make plenty to support myself and my family. I have no problems giving some of my money in taxes to help people who are in a hole. I was once in a terrible situation for many years myself so I know all about it.

If you can't take it don't dish it out!
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

If it's just a personal moral concern. I don't care.

I am looking at this from a business and societal perspective.

My personal opinion is that A&E shouldn't have done this as there was no need for it.

However they have every right to and legitimately so.

I don't disagree that they have every right to do so.... as sad as that is.

"Legitimately" so..... that is taking it a bit further than I care to agree with.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Dood still lives in the same house he always has.
Okay?

Granted his family cumulatively is enormously wealthy but that was do to their family business, and not the A&E show.
See above.

Re that whole 'sin' thing...you DID see that he was talking about ALL sin, recognizing we ALL fall short, right?
I wasn't responding to that, I was responding to the condemnation in the poster's post.
 
'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I don't disagree that they have every right to do so.... as sad as that is.

"Legitimately" so..... that is taking it a bit further than I care to agree with.

What law are they violating?

Morally, they have every right to do what they want with their network. They are also not beholden to others needs beyond economic concerns.

They can run ads for god and Satan if they wish. They can play dog bark jingle bells all day long too. They can do what they please and while you or I may disagree, our disagreement does not affect their legitimacy as they have no responsibility to us
 
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Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Plenty of people on DP were (and still are) strongly critical of democrats (including Obama, both Clintons and others) who have failed to defend (or who have opposed) equal rights for homosexuals, myself included.
Why I KNOW. Golly...we are literally WADING through the many varied threads and steady stream of commentary here. LITERALLY tripping over them up in this beeeyotch.

Right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Paula Deen product lines are already making a slow comeback, like Martha Stewart's did. Her fumbling, tearful and public apologies only worsened her situation. The best thing she could do was get out her own way. Sometimes in the world of notoriety the less demographic groups you offend or comment on the better off you are.
 
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