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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    He grouped them both together as sins
    Still a massive PR mistake.

    That seems more a choice for a&e, but rather irrelevant to your earlier point making the distinction between normative and positive statements
    My statement applied to the state of being, versus a state of making judgements.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are both homosexuality and bestiality considered to be sins and discouraged by stories in the bible? I can say that crime includes trespass, robbery and murder. They are not equal crimes, in terms of severity or sentence, but they are "akin" as they are all crimes.
    Simply stating he does not support gay marriage would have been sufficient. Instead, he decided to go that extra redneck-mile and put his feet in his mouth.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Perhaps, but he was asked a direct question on the subject, so he answered it. That's not a legal justification of termination, IMO.
    He has a public image to maintain with respect to A&E. Obviously his contract carried a personal responsibility clause for public statements.

    Again.... It's his mistake.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Using a simple, unassuming word like "bigot" to describe the WBC is just insufficient.
    I had intended to expand on this, but forgot to add it...thus:

    Additionally, I would bet that they are "supporting" Robertson NOT because they support him, but rather because he has a bunch of media attention at the moment, and the WBC is made up entirely of attention whores.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Still a massive PR mistake.
    Which is, again, irrelevant to the way you characterized it



    My statement applied to the state of being, versus a state of making judgements.
    right, and they would be both moral judgements: "homosexuality is ok" vs "homosexuality is not ok"

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The guy was not suspended over a religious issue, he was suspended because of the potential harm his actions could cause A&E
    Slippery slope when the non-violent expression of ones religious moral beliefs is claimed to have potential harm caused to A&E.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Simply stating he does not support gay marriage would have been sufficient. Instead, he decided to go that extra redneck-mile and put his feet in his mouth.
    Yep. That was much more derogatory than Ed Schultz calling Laura Ingraham a right-wing slut.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    The opposition of a moral position is not what he is being flagged for. It's how he portrayed homosexuality; akin to bestiality. The guy, as a representative of A&E, has no business even mentioning bestiality, let alone using it in conjunction with homosexuality to establish a moral position. For a guy who spends so much time in the woods..., it's not something you want mentioned when your name comes up.
    That's nonsense considering A&E does all sorts of shows that highlight the Bible (the source of Phil's quotes) as do other networks. You don't hear of the folks who tie aliens to the Bible in innumerable shows being fired for impugning mainstream beliefs.

    This just once again highlights what open wounded, silly complainers the GLAAD set are. Perpetual victims that cannot tolerate anything they consider negative being said about their lifestyle.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Slippery slope when the non-violent expression of ones religious moral beliefs is claimed to have potential harm caused to A&E.
    Yep. Losing the dozens of DD homosexual viewers would be terrible.

    A&E is simply loving the added free publicity of this self created controversy.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And yet A&E commercial supporters are still there. I think it's YOU who thinks this is a big deal. Facebook "likes" don't stop money flowing in, actual actions do. Have t seen A&ES hurting one bit. But you have fun stomping your feet and foaming at the mouth over the suspension
    Just the opposite, yes this is A&E's biggest draw and the show will not continue without Phil, the rest of the family have made that clear. A&E won't lose just some of the advert dollars, but ALL of them. All because they chose to bend knee to a bunch of whiners.

    And you're characterization is false. Actually the foamers at the mouth are the GLAAD folks and yourself who don't watch the show in the first place. You all are the ones who kicked this whole thing off. Phil and the family are not at all impacted other than perhaps positively.

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