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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, what's the point.
    That some fellow bigots are coming out in support of him.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
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    When?? Where? Did i state he was part of Westboro? That he like Westboro? That he supports Westboro? I simply stated that Westboro is coming out to support him via protest. I never said that the Duck Dynasty guy supports this move or applauds this move. I simply stated that Westboro is planning a protest in support of him.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    There is a big difference between making a positive statement (not expressing judgement) with a normative statement (expressing judgement). Duck Dynasty either needs a better PR/legal team, or needs to take the advice of the one(s) they have.
    I meant a person making a statement in favor of homosexuality (which is expressing a moral judgement), not the mere statement that they are gay.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    That some fellow bigots are coming out in support of him.
    So you're associating them with him, while he does not claim their wacky beliefs. This is like using terrorists to represent Muslims.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The simple fact is the patriarch of the family was allowed to say what he wanted and A&E was free to suspend him for it. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can call your boss an asshole and not be fired. Same thing here. There are certain things you don't do and when you put your employer in a bad light, you get suspended. Don't like it don't watch A&E.
    Meh, a&e is responding to threats and possible financial repercussions from groups like GLAAD. Which is certainly their right and likely in their interest. But the failure here is on the part of such organizations thinking that trying to drown out and suppress such views is the strategically and morally right thing to do.

    Unfortunately the debate on Gay rights is far from a consensus, and while there is a natural demographic shift going on, and I think a clear consensus on the issue is inevitable, it isn't going to be helped by having groups running around trying to force people into acceptance (as demonstrated by the general response to both this and the chick-a-fila protests). Cooler and more rational heads would have simply used both incidents to publicly challenge such ideas and expose them for what they were

    All this does is lend credibility to the idea traditional american values are being openly attacked

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you're associating them with him, while he does not claim their wacky beliefs. This is like using terrorists to represent Muslims.
    Or Stalin socialists

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Or Stalin socialists
    It's so obvious.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you're associating them with him, while he does not claim their wacky beliefs. This is like using terrorists to represent Muslims.
    No i am not. I believe Westboro is a bigot and i believe this Duck Dynasty guy is also a bigot. However i view Westboro as extremists and much bigger bigots. I dont believe the Duck Dynasty guy is apart of Westboro, or even likes them. I simply stated that a bigoted group is coming out to protest in support another bigot. I dont know how the Ducky Dynasty guy views Westboro, but i would put my money that he does not like them.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    When?? Where? Did i state he was part of Westboro? That he like Westboro? That he supports Westboro? I simply stated that Westboro is coming out to support him via protest. I never said that the Duck Dynasty guy supports this move or applauds this move. I simply stated that Westboro is planning a protest in support of him.
    Either your being your usual intellectually dishonest self or are intellectually dull. I'll let you choose

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Either your being your usual intellectually dishonest self or are intellectually dull. I'll let you choose
    I forget you always have the high horse.....
    So you cant answer any of my questions?


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