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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just saying some more fellow bigots if Rpbertson likes it or not are coming to his aid.
    Nonsense. Everyone knows that family's church of a few people hates gays and believe that the existence of gay people/activity causes war and disasters. How often are they to serve as examples of anything?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Apparently they're so worried about their bottom line that they're running Duck Dynasty marathons.

    More likely, firing the guy is instant controversy and publicity and they're going to milk it for all the cash it brings in. I would be astonished if they didn't rehire him, possibly after some sort of apology.
    I think A&E has had its fun and no more Queer Eye followed by Duck People. All the sales are still going through A&E marketing contracts and will be for some time. Another network can have it, perhaps after Ancient Aliens.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Nonsense.
    They are the ones picketing in favor of him..

    Everyone knows that family's church of a few people hates gays and believe that the existence of gay people/activity causes war and disasters.
    So what....

    How often are they to serve as examples of anything?
    Never said they serve as examples, just that they are protesting in favor of him.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, is a known biblical belief, and saying so isnít necessarily homophobic, nor even bigoted. However, yes, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect the right to say things that others might find controversial or offensive, especially when it's a moral opinion. And therefore his being fired for such should fall within a violation of discrimination laws under the Civil Rights Act, Title VII which expressly forbids discrimination based on religious belief.
    yes, the bible advocates slavery ... and any variety of killing, among the odd things espoused
    that does not mean the civil rights act is going to protect you on religious grounds because you acted on the endorsements of the bible and took slaves and stoned those who the bible says deserve stoning
    but good luck with overcoming this suspension by a civil rights suit. a certain loser
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, is a known biblical belief, and saying so isnít necessarily homophobic, nor even bigoted. However, yes, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect the right to say things that others might find controversial or offensive, especially when it's a moral opinion. And therefore his being fired for such should fall within a violation of discrimination laws under the Civil Rights Act, Title VII which expressly forbids discrimination based on religious belief.
    It is bigoted and homophobic, but he has the right to say it. And he did. No prevented him. No civil rights have been violated. Remember, others have the right to react to what said. No law makes any hire him. Nor keep him hired.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is bigoted and homophobic, but he has the right to say it. And he did. No prevented him. No civil rights have been violated. Remember, others have the right to react to what said. No law makes any hire him. Nor keep him hired.
    How is it bigoted, or homophobic?
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    If a company is paying a person with media exposure, they are well within their rights to cease the business relationship if the person makes public statements that can affect the bottom line of the company/business/firm/organization. I am assuming there was a contingency in place (contractually) that protects the network from first amendment suits.
    The details of any contract are a big factor of course, but even still, to say that expressing ones religious moral opinions in an interview published by an unrelated company affects the bottom line (and therefore justify termination) would be as much a violation of the Civil Rights Act Title VII, as claiming the same thing regarding a person who makes a public statement about being gay or lesbian, and being fired for it.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    What if Duck Dynasty dude was tired of doing the show and intentionally did this to get out of an ironclad contract?
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, the bible advocates slavery ... and any variety of killing, among the odd things espoused
    that does not mean the civil rights act is going to protect you on religious grounds because you acted on the endorsements of the bible and took slaves and stoned those who the bible says deserve stoning
    The difference here is that a non-violent moral opinion was given. Not an act of taking slaves, killing, or even condoning it.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    The difference here is that a non-violent moral opinion was given. Not an act of taking slaves, killing, or even condoning it.
    your presentation was that phil can get away with his odious behavior by cloaking it in the religiosity of the bible
    i offered those other examples to prove your presentation wrong
    if the religious basis will not protect him from being found wrong having slaves or stoning someone, it will similarly not protect him from the consequences of saying stupid ****
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