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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you saying that A&E did not react to pressure from GLAAD, and HRC to suspend Phil Robertson?
    Your ASSuming A&E didn't want to suspend Phil but only pressure from GLAAD 'forced' them to.

    I believe that is as incorrect.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Ever hear of the law of unintended consequences? It very can rise up so easily and bit one in the butt very quickly. An example here, the Republicans shut down the government to defund the ACA. The unintended consequences as the shut actually helped the ACA law itself. The GaP between those who favored the ACA to opposed was 14-19 points advantage oppose prior to the shutdown. After the shutdown that gap narrowed to 4-10 points.

    In other words the Republicans thought the people would back them in their attempt to defund the ACA, the reverse is what happened. Sort of like with Mr. Duck here, GLAAD thought by bringing this to the attention of the viewership of TV reality programs that it would cut into the audience of Mr. Duck. But what it has done is bring that show to the attention of quite a lot of people who never bothered to watch it and now it has piqued their interests. So hence all this publicity will probably bring the show higher ratings than before. An unexpected bonanza for both A&E and Mr. Duck.
    Good for them then. I hope it doubles sales.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Your ASSuming A&E didn't want to suspend Phil but only pressure from GLAAD 'forced' them to.

    I believe that is as incorrect.
    Ofcourse you do. wouldn't be the first time liberals let their ideology get in the way of sound business practice.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ofcourse you do. wouldn't be the first time liberals let their ideology get in the way of sound business practice.
    It is interesting to see CONs, who love to talk principle when it suits, wish OTHERS to toss theirs aside for mammon.

    The same 'christians' who line up to howl over the Quackers lead attacks against some VERY popular shows and for some very odd reasons. They are letting principles interfere with making money.

    Remember the outrage over 'Happy Feet'? If the Religious Right had their way that money maker would never have seen the light of day.

    Photographers who refuse to make money doing same sex weddings, Bakers refusing to serve same sex customers, florists who refuse to serve their long standing gay customers because the customer is getting married to his male partner...

    So spare us the tripe that liberals let their ideology get in the way of sound business practices... pot meet kettle.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    pretending that homophobia is biblically accepted does not provide the speaker safe haven for making bigoted statements
    Believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, is a known biblical belief, and saying so isn’t necessarily homophobic, nor even bigoted. However, yes, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect the right to say things that others might find controversial or offensive, especially when it's a moral opinion. And therefore his being fired for such should fall within a violation of discrimination laws under the Civil Rights Act, Title VII which expressly forbids discrimination based on religious belief.
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    'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, is a known biblical belief, and saying so isn’t necessarily homophobic, nor even bigoted. However, yes, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect the right to say things that others might find controversial or offensive, especially when it's a moral opinion. And therefore his being fired for such should fall within a violation of discrimination laws under the Civil Rights Act, Title VII which expressly forbids discrimination based on religious belief.
    Thank you. I was waiting several days for a rational argument from those who believed that Phil should not have been fired.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    Believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, is a known biblical belief, and saying so isn’t necessarily homophobic, nor even bigoted. However, yes, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect the right to say things that others might find controversial or offensive, especially when it's a moral opinion. And therefore his being fired for such should fall within a violation of discrimination laws under the Civil Rights Act, Title VII which expressly forbids discrimination based on religious belief.
    If a company is paying a person with media exposure, they are well within their rights to cease the business relationship if the person makes public statements that can affect the bottom line of the company/business/firm/organization. I am assuming there was a contingency in place (contractually) that protects the network from first amendment suits.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Apparently they're so worried about their bottom line that they're running Duck Dynasty marathons.

    More likely, firing the guy is instant controversy and publicity and they're going to milk it for all the cash it brings in. I would be astonished if they didn't rehire him, possibly after some sort of apology.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, so you have proof that Robertson reached out to WBC? And if not, I'll assume you are just going down this road to smear. Pathetic.
    Just saying some more fellow bigots if Rpbertson likes it or not are coming to his aid.


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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    If a company is paying a person with media exposure, they are well within their rights to cease the business relationship if the person makes public statements that can affect the bottom line of the company/business/firm/organization. I am assuming there was a contingency in place (contractually) that protects the network from first amendment suits.

    I agree with this on a legal basis that religious beliefs have proper avenues of expression that protect them from recrimination. In a church or private setting but in public his rights cannot infringe on another entities.
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