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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And you are being absurd.
    Saying you dislike something is fine.
    Saying something is a sin is also fine and not bigoted as that is a religious belief. One you can not prove to be untrue.


    Saying something is moronic is not fine. That is bigoted.
    And that is your opinion and I respect that. I however do find what Phil Robertson said about gays and blacks to be moronic. You may not see his remarks as very foolish or stupid but I do. The things he said about gays are very stupid IMHO and what he says about the happy black people before the human rights movement is both very foolish and stupid.

    And as said, I see his comments as bigoted and that is just how I feel. That might make me in your eyes a bigot but in my eyes I am not being bigoted but merely reacting on something I see as bigoted.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Intolerant, that is a word that is being batted around like a pinata, the gays lesbians etc were demanding tolerance for their views. Now I have to ask where is the same tolerance for a person speaking his views that you don't agree with. There is a word for that, hypocrite.
    yes, pointing out his obvious bigotry is so intolerant
    stay with that if it makes you sleep better
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Nothing stated in an interview can even approuching either one
    I did not say that it did. I was talking in general about how anti-gay comments contribute to an atmosphere of disrespect, hatred and possibly violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    So we are equivocating statements to the possible reactions to such statements? jesus man,talk about peddling bull**** to make a point
    I am not doing anything. I am just of the opinion that what he said are anti-gay comments which he is free to voice but that other people (me included) are free to disagree with. Just as A&E has the right not to work with someone who has those kinds of opinions and voices them publicly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    You cited the terms to justify the reaction to his statements in the gq interview. Sorry, now going "well it happens to gay's as well" makes absolutely no sense
    Gays have to live with hatred, disapproval and unfair and biased comments and opinions and I think it is perfectly acceptable if they speak up against a very public figure who has anti-gay opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    They are in no way the same thing and to try an equate them is totally dishonest
    That is your opinion, I disagree with that because there are loads of idiots (most likely not Robertson himself or people he knows) who see this as another reason to go and fight gays with all possible means.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    And you know what, at this point and time it's a view shared by a very large segment of the population and isn't going to be addressed or changed by publically exiling every person that states it in public. You're much better off actually addressing such ideas as opposed to trying to drive them underground, especially when they are still largely acceptable among a significant amount of the population
    to a properly raised five year old, they would recognize his words as bigoted upon hearing them
    what seems to have the reich wing's panties in a bunch is that his employer imposed consequences for its employee making public expressions which were potentially damaging to the employer because of an affiliation with this 19th century yokel
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    He was asked a set up question by the interviewer about sin and he ticked off what the bible says is a sin. For that you label him a bigot. So, as you state here, if you do that, it makes you a bigot. I can only assume then that you think Christians are bigots.

    Oh, and btw, what is this crap about one believing the bible but not saying it outloud? I think that makes you the bigot.
    he was asked a question about sin and replied with comments which were highly bigoted
    those comments expressed his personal bigotry no matter what his faith happened to be
    so, you want this to be another perceived instance of Christian persecution because you have nothing else as a defense for his stupidity
    but sorry, that defense won't work either, because this has nothing to do with his religion, only his bigoted views
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    His personal opinion and beliefs are not moronic.
    You do not have to agree with them, but saying they are moronic, is well, moronic and bigoted.


    no. it was moronic to express such intolerant views
    A&E's subsequent actions have confirmed this

    and if expressing that makes me bigoted against morons, then i can live with it
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Sure, I am the bigot for disagreeing or disliking the comment of a bigot. I call that conservative reasoning, attack all those who dare to expose bigots for the bigotry by calling them bigots.
    This whole thing was over a question asked. What was he supposed to do, refuse to answer, so as not to offend with his answer to a religious question? Yours, and the gay community stance on this is to be offended by the bible not Phil. He is just the easy target for intolerant cowards
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This whole thing was over a question asked. What was he supposed to do, refuse to answer, so as not to offend with his answer to a religious question? Yours, and the gay community stance on this is to be offended by the bible not Phil. He is just the easy target for intolerant cowards
    He could have said that he would not make comments about that subject or that he personally thinks homosexuality is not in accordance with his religious beliefs.

    That is something that even A&E would most likely have been at peace with.

    He did not do that, he said things in such a manner (about not only homosexuality but about blacks too) that made A&E decide not to work with him anymore.

    And he made himself a target mostly for how he said things IMHO and not because he does not agree with homosexuality or gay weddings etc.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This whole thing was over a question asked. What was he supposed to do, refuse to answer, so as not to offend with his answer to a religious question?
    he could have cited the ten commandments as his guide. but he didn't. he instead pointed to homosexuals as a group engaging in an unacceptable manner. hardly a tolerant view ... but a belief which passed a generation or two ago, like discriminating against people of color was then found acceptable

    Yours, and the gay community stance on this is to be offended by the bible not Phil.
    the bible is filled with offensive comments
    which should cause people with a mind to ponder any such religion which would embrace such offensive positions
    but phil expressed his personal embrace of such intolerant views
    and now he is suspended from his job for his intolerant positions publicly expressed, because his employer does not want to be viewed as subscribing to such intolerant beliefs by its association with him

    He is just the easy target for intolerant cowards
    his personal intolerance made himself a very easy target to be gunned down
    and we didn't even need a duck call ... well, other than the one he provided
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This whole thing was over a question asked. What was he supposed to do, refuse to answer, so as not to offend with his answer to a religious question? Yours, and the gay community stance on this is to be offended by the bible not Phil. He is just the easy target for intolerant cowards
    He went above and beyond simply answering the question and delivered a sermon. Obviously, Duck man fancies himself the second coming of Ted Nugent.

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