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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    The irony of this is breathtaking. According the social conservatives and the religious right, one should be able to say anything they want, no matter how offensive it is, without repercussion from their employer. For example, you should be able to equate homosexuality to beastiality, the former being a consensual relationship between adults, the latter an adult raping an animal. You should be able to publicly equate the two, but if you face any reproductions from your employer because they believe your statement to be offensive and bigoted, then its an example of "liberal intolerance"..... This coming from the crowd that will boycott a retailer if the cashier tells them "Happy Holidays".

    Phil Robertson seems to be a nice and decent man. He is obviously religious. I don't think he is a bad person, but he did say something that is hateful and offensive by comparing homosexuality to beastiality, and decent people do not have to simply tolerate bigotry.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

    He also said, about homosexuality:

    "It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

    He also said, "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

    You know who else said gay marriage was a 'moral' issue and one formed by his Christian belief system?

    This guy....

    Attachment 67158597

    He's still pretty much on the slippery slope argument which is ridiculous. And with regards to Obama, I dislike him for a number of reasons, especially in regards to LGBT issues.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    He's still pretty much on the slippery slope argument which is ridiculous. And with regards to Obama, I dislike him for a number of reasons, especially in regards to LGBT issues.
    And yet...the hysterical homosexual brigade doesnt soil themselves when it is a democrat or liberal actor or musician that makes anti-gay comments. oddly enough.

    There IS no slippery slope argument. Thats just ridiculous. He stated his belief that it was wrong AND that "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

    You have no obligation to accept his beliefs or his state position. But for people to be upset about that? Seriously?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your ODS is showing...
    Not at all...merely pointing out the fact. If it would have been better accepted I could have posted the numerous articles, videos, and examples of black, liberal, democrat supporting ministers who's opinions mirror Phil Robinsons.

    Its simply a fact.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I want to point out...he has talked about his faith plenty of times in a personal context. In this passage he's used faith to attack others.

    To me it's a pretty easy distinction to make. There's no double standard here...there's just a lot of things in the bible people latch on to which deals more with how others should be treated than how they personally live their life. It's one thing (and ridiculous to say) "I'm not gay because the bible tells me not to be"...it's another to criticize homosexuals.
    It's still essentially the same. I don't really see what he said as an attack, especially considering he really was quoting directly out of the bible. (Though you'd be surprised how much hateful stuff is in there). People haven't waited a second to attack him because of their beliefs, should they all be fired?

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No it doesn't. That is just the failed argument of the right-wing every time they cry about people being held responsibility for their hate speech.

    It makes no difference to me, but "true tollerance" is just that, true tollerance.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And yet...the hysterical homosexual brigade doesnt soil themselves when it is a democrat or liberal actor or musician that makes anti-gay comments. oddly enough.

    There IS no slippery slope argument. Thats just ridiculous. He stated his belief that it was wrong AND that "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

    You have no obligation to accept his beliefs or his state position. But for people to be upset about that? Seriously?
    Apparently, yes. GLADD has demanded Robertson's apology. I hope that he doesn't recant.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    I wonder what the religious right bunch and other social conservatives would be saying today if Phil Robertson in his interview said something like:

    "The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin, but I believe that all these people that are so hung up on it and gay marriage are all a bunch of self loathing closeted gays. They want a male's anus but they are stuck with a vagina and thats why the supposed "gay and lesbian agenda" is such a big deal with them".

    If he had said something like that, every social conservative out there would be calling for him to be fired, for him to pay back the money A&E paid him for the show, and it would be non-stop talk about it on various right wing media outlets, Fox News, and conservative talk radio.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

    He also said, about homosexuality:

    "It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

    He also said, "We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

    You know who else said gay marriage was a 'moral' issue and one formed by his Christian belief system?

    This guy....

    Attachment 67158597
    Yep. But that guy was a liberal, demorat and the darling of those that hated republicants. Besides, once the election was in the bag and public opinion had shifted, his position evolved.

    Obama is a man of strong moral character, an educated eleite, that evolves with the times, while Phil Robertson is a hillbilly, white trash piece of scum that deserves to suffer for his politically incorrect religious beliefs. Get with the program.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not at all...merely pointing out the fact. If it would have been better accepted I could have posted the numerous articles, videos, and examples of black, liberal, democrat supporting ministers who's opinions mirror Phil Robinsons.

    Its simply a fact.
    How many times did Obama lump gays with drunks and terrorists? Saying it was a moral issue was not the issue I think most had with his comments.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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