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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I think the military is far more sacred and their retirement should be the last thing cut. If they choose to cut the congress' retirement...I wouldn't have said a peep. I am actually against most forms of government sponsored retirement, but I have a soft spot for the military.
    There were no cuts, just reductions in future COLA increases - the exact same thing will be done for SS (and was done for the SS full benefit retirement age). Your selective outrage is noted and is shared by many and for many different federal spending programs.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I don't want to swallow it at all. It would be easier to take if they had cut tax loopholes for illegal aliens and cut welfare/medicaid at a rate of 5% for every 1% they take from retirees.
    The horror! Do you assert that the "pay as you go" rule should be be actually enforced? But this is a "crisis"!
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There were no cuts, just reductions in future COLA increases - the exact same thing will be done for SS (and was done for the SS full benefit retirement age). Your selective outrage is noted and is shared by many and for many different federal spending programs.
    My sacred cow is better than your sacred cow. It wouldn't be politics if we didn't have that.

    I believe our government should have honest cuts in spending and live within our means. If you cut anything, you are going to hurt someone else.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    My sacred cow is better than your sacred cow. It wouldn't be politics if we didn't have that.

    I believe our government should have honest cuts in spending and live within our means. If you cut anything, you are going to hurt someone else.
    How about this novel idea: when federal spending increases then raise federal taxation to cover that.

    We have had national debt increases for the last four decades with no end in sight - there was no "crisis" or "emergency" that lasted four decades unless you count political resistance to raising federal taxation exceeding political resistance to raising federal spending.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How about this novel idea: when federal spending increases then raise federal taxation to cover that.

    We have had national debt increases for the last four decades with no end in sight - there was no "crisis" or "emergency" that lasted four decades unless you count political resistance to raising federal taxation exceeding political resistance to raising federal spending.
    I would accept a mixture of tax raises and cuts.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I would accept a mixture of tax raises and cuts.
    What? A few posts ago you were against "cuts" that were merely decreases in proposed spending increases.

    That kind of "cut" requires added taxation since it increases spending. You seemed to object to the "cut" not to the lack of budget offsets in the actual spending increase.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    And you are right, the "cuts" are not really cuts. They are caps on increases which are touted as cuts.
    If there aren't at least increases equal to inflation won't the effect be a cut?

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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If there aren't at least increases equal to inflation won't the effect be a cut?
    I wouldn't say that. If a program is serving 100 people today and with equal money it is serving 150 people 5 years from now, would that be a cut?
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What? A few posts ago you were against "cuts" that were merely decreases in proposed spending increases.

    That kind of "cut" requires added taxation since it increases spending. You seemed to object to the "cut" not to the lack of budget offsets in the actual spending increase.
    Ya, I want real cuts. I want programs cut. I want a smaller government. I think we should have a balanced budget or pay as you go. We don't either now.
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    Re: Senate’s promise to fix cut to military retirement pay Handful of Republicans joi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I wouldn't say that. If a program is serving 100 people today and with equal money it is serving 150 people 5 years from now, would that be a cut?
    I miss the connection. Would you restate that please?

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