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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so you didn't agree with what Bush did, and his poll numbers were justified in your eyes, I understand, and I agree that Obama's numbers are of his own making, even though you come dangerously close to deflecting away from that by trying to make the thread about Iraq, Obama is the president now, and he has worse approval ratings at this point than Bush had at this point...Says a lot don't you think?
    Yes, it says that the people of this great democracy need to wise up and select a leader who can lead for once, regardless of whether that leader is a he or a she, a Democrat or Republican, black or white.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    they had no choice thanks to CRA. Ultimately no loan is made unless the borrower signs on the dotted line.
    CRA doesn't force banks to lend.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, isn't Obama's schemes of payback, and bail out of too big to fail just grand? IIRC, his biggest donor was Goldman Sach's right?
    It says much about the financial health of the nation. Bush's Treasury secretary allowed Lehman to fail, under the guise of "No more bailouts!!!". Only to get on his knees and beg the democrats to pass TARP.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    CRA doesn't force banks to lend.
    It certainly did, it required banks make loans to people that normally wouldn't qualify.

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It certainly did, it required banks make loans to people that normally wouldn't qualify.
    Nope!

    Try actually reading the legislation. It forces banks that take deposits in lower income zip codes to review mortgage applications of the people in said LIZC as they would in a higher income zip code.

    There is no debate.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, it says that the people of this great democracy need to wise up and select a leader who can lead for once, regardless of whether that leader is a he or a she, a Democrat or Republican, black or white.

    On that we can agree old friend...
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    It says much about the financial health of the nation. Bush's Treasury secretary allowed Lehman to fail, under the guise of "No more bailouts!!!". Only to get on his knees and beg the democrats to pass TARP.
    Yep, He did, and that was wrong. But then Obama came in and as most progressive liberals do, figure out what can be used to their advantage, and further their agenda, and put it on steroids.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact the debt grew during Clinton's Presidency which means he borrowed the money in order to meet a budget and have a surplus.
    That means nothing of the sort. It simply means that the debt grew under his Presidency. That does not in any way diminish the fact that fiscal surpluses did indeed occur under his tenure. Also keep in mind that surplus funds in certain categories (FICA revenue) are required by law to be reinvested in US debt.

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Nope!

    Try actually reading the legislation. It forces banks that take deposits in lower income zip codes to review mortgage applications of the people in said LIZC as they would in a higher income zip code.

    There is no debate.
    Good grief....
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    That means nothing of the sort. It simply means that the debt grew under his Presidency. That does not in any way diminish the fact that fiscal surpluses did indeed occur under his tenure. Also keep in mind that surplus funds in certain categories (FICA revenue) are required by law to be reinvested in US debt.
    Oh ok, so just so I understand....If you a351 borrow $10K but have $100.00 in the bank in a savings account, then by your logic, you have a surplus of $100.00. Right?
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