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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hey look at this way... at least the right stopped blaming Bill Clinton for everything...
    Clinton allowed it to happen - I'll say that much..

    That whole "force banks to lend" crap was a problem but there has been plenty of time between that and now - like 20 years.

    At least we're making progress with the destruction of the clowns that claim "we can get you out of your $177,000 debt for only $9.99 every month" - no wait that's our federal government not the clowns - the FED just prints money to "ease" it down to nothing while making the general public eat it.

    Clinton was the most economically reckless president ever.

    If it matters Bush did hardly anything to correct any of Clintons stupid ****....

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    See Clinton just used banks as a stimulus program by forcing lending....

    That lead to the bailouts.........

    Our government forced banks to lend then made them look stupid when they defaulted - not that I don't believe the banks loved the interest rates. But the only problem was the interest rates didn't matter when they couldn't be paid.

    That was the ****ing problem...

    I don't know what anyone was thinking for about 20 years...

    No all the collateral has been taken and everyone is crying "I'm poor" -- yeah well they should have thought about that when they bought the boat 10 years ago with 5% down.

    Now who is stuck with this ****? oh guys like me in their 30's or even younger - guys who were 5-years-old when you bought that boat..... They pay for it...
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    You know what chaps my ass these days? the clown with a $100,000 house he RENTS while he has a $50,000 car parked in the driveway he claims he owns but you know he leases....... A lot of people are like that tho, and most of them are from the Clinton culture.....

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Clinton allowed it to happen - I'll say that much..

    That whole "force banks to lend" crap was a problem but there has been plenty of time between that and now - like 20 years.

    At least we're making progress with the destruction of the clowns that claim "we can get you out of your $177,000 debt for only $9.99 every month" - no wait that's our federal government not the clowns - the FED just prints money to "ease" it down to nothing while making the general public eat it.

    Clinton was the most economically reckless president ever.

    If it matters Bush did hardly anything to correct any of Clintons stupid ****....
    Actually it was Reagan that was the most economically reckless president ever, since it was he (and his cult) that started all the trickle down crap based on debt and not production.

    All Presidents since Reagan are to blame for not stopping the rot, and yes Clinton should have rolled back decades of miss-management by the right, but he was being attacked constantly by the right so doing anything was not that easy. The same thing has happened in part to Obama. Obama could propose all the reforms you wanted, but you know just as I do, that the GOP in the House would never ever agree to to it, even if it was their own freaking policy!
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Actually it was Reagan that was the most economically reckless president ever, since it was he (and his cult) that started all the trickle down crap based on debt and not production.

    All Presidents since Reagan are to blame for not stopping the rot, and yes Clinton should have rolled back decades of miss-management by the right, but he was being attacked constantly by the right so doing anything was not that easy. The same thing has happened in part to Obama. Obama could propose all the reforms you wanted, but you know just as I do, that the GOP in the House would never ever agree to to it, even if it was their own freaking policy!
    No it was not, the trickle down idea worked, the government and the bankers just got greedy with it...

    They sponged it up and you let them when you agreed to 20% interest rates...

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Sorry but you don't get "trickle down" when you're paying astronomic interest rates.... Yeah, you may be paying yours while others are just racking up debt and defaulting which impacts you - because you are paying for it either way the bank defaults or not for bad loans..

    We wouldn't be in this mess if people just paid their debt and didn't default - because there would be no goddamn reason to buy debt..

    Hence people don't want trickle down to work because they borrowed against it in the first place..

    Trickle down only works when you put 20 or 30% down and reduce your interest or borrow from a lender that has a grace period...
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No it was not, the trickle down idea worked, the government and the bankers just got greedy with it...

    They sponged it up and you let them when you agreed to 20% interest rates...
    The trickle down idea never worked, pretty much all independent analysis shows this. And the bankers got greedy already in the 1980s... remember the movie Wall Street?.. from 1987, based on what was going on in Wall Street... Just saying.

    Reagan had his savings and loans scandal.. he should have then said.. wait a minute, but he did not. He and his people allowed the banking industry to run amok for decades and doing the same mistakes over and over again and that ultimately lead to the crash. Reaganomics was and is a failure. Blaming the other side for the failure of your policies is just lame.
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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    You see - now my generation is buying all their ****....... Everything is cheap and you CAN get a loan if you throw 30-40% down (like it should have been in the first place).... We just have better interest rates...

    Those who have the means in my generation understand trickle down (or don't trust banks)... Either way our economic ideas lead to prosperity.

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The trickle down idea never worked, pretty much all independent analysis shows this. And the bankers got greedy already in the 1980s... remember the movie Wall Street?.. from 1987, based on what was going on in Wall Street... Just saying.

    Reagan had his savings and loans scandal.. he should have then said.. wait a minute, but he did not. He and his people allowed the banking industry to run amok for decades and doing the same mistakes over and over again and that ultimately lead to the crash. Reaganomics was and is a failure. Blaming the other side for the failure of your policies is just lame.
    You're basing your ideas on movies...

    I have a pretty good understanding of free market economics - its nothing like Wall Street the movie - at least not in the sense you're thinking.

    You ever see that movie with Dan Aykroyd, Eddie Murphy and Jamie Lee Curtis??? does it work like that too where they sell corn like ****?

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    Re: Five years in, Obama and Bush poll numbers nearly identical

    Sorry to tell you that you sold your privilege to "trickle down economics" when you sold it to interest -- yeah -- the banks bought it, and the US public agreed to it via consumerism...

    18% interest rate....hahahahaha - yeah that's your trickle down going bye-bye...

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