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Ap survey: Us income gap is holding back economy

Did you read Table 4? Do you dispute the good University of Santa Cruz - its hardly a bastion of conservatism or even capitalism. Where as your link comes from a liberal / socialist think tank. Your link projects a lot of "hooey" like the rich own 1/2 fo the stocks/bonds but the facts of the Santa Cruz study clearly note that wealth distribution in America has not change much from 1920 to 2010. If anything, due to population increases, its more distributed now than it was in 1920. I'm sorry the facts don't support your liberal socialist manifesto - but they dont.


TheDemSocialist said:
Thats just blantly not true : How Unequal We Are: The Top 5 Facts You Should Know About The Wealthiest One Percent Of Americans | ThinkProgress
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Mr.Nick said:
"imaginary socialists"
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" blatant socialists running our government and they're doing their absolute best to destroy "capitalism""
-which "blantant socialists? As far as i can tell we only have one, his name is Bernie Sanders. The rest are capitlaits and corporatists that have the private interests best in mind.. Can you point the specifics out besides some vey vague statement?


What makes you believe socialism or socialists don't exist?
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I never said they dont exist. Hell i am a socialist. But in the US congress there is only one...


I love how you and your ilk act so irrelevant but are so dominate....
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Well saying there is only one socialist who hold relevant power in the US its pretty damn irrelevant.


You act like you're invisible but you're everywhere...
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I wish we were everywhere. But we are not.


Explaining economics to you would be a waste of time - you have no interest in that, your only interest is in activism and radicalism.
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I actually love economics, especially socialist economics, unfortunately we are very far away from socialism. But i do love activism. And radicalism? Not so much, im more of a gradualism, and a revisionist.

Prairie Fire is your Bible and activism is your hobby...
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Never heard of "Prairie Fire". But the Bible. Yea ive read the Bible. And I'm also a Christian. But activism as my hobby? Na. Not so much. Right now searching for a j.o.b. is my hobby. Never been a "huge" activist. Been to a couple protests, but not a lot.


The simple fact you cant admit that proves who you are (or progressives are), despite the fact you advertise it...
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Well so far, you couldnt be more wrong about me. Maybe you should get to know me better.


Your ****ing name is demsocialist afterall. Did you forget that?
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No i didnt forget my "****ing name". But thanks for pointing out the obvious.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You see the bolded?

The fundamental problem with progressives is that they believe nothing can exist without government intervention.

Yes capitalism exists without government dictation - government IS an economic model dictated by government - an economic model that has absolutely no ties to resources...

Socialism is nothing more than monopoly money and when the resources get thin they start kicking people out of the country (culls) or let them starve...

Capitalism is called "free market" for a reason - because capitalism doesn't need government dictation to work - government dictation, regulation and taxation only hinder (or stunt/hold back) capitalism...
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Uhh, dude, anarchy doesn't actually lend itself to a well functioning free market.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You see the bolded?

The fundamental problem with progressives is that they believe nothing can exist without government intervention.

Yes capitalism exists without government dictation - government IS an economic model dictated by government - an economic model that has absolutely no ties to resources...

Socialism is nothing more than monopoly money and when the resources get thin they start kicking people out of the country (culls) or let them starve...

Capitalism is called "free market" for a reason - because capitalism doesn't need government dictation to work - government dictation, regulation and taxation only hinder (or stunt/hold back) capitalism...
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Someone needs to get his school money back.

You are mixing a ton of different theories together. Government is not an economic theory like Capitalism. And economic theories can not exist without a structured system that creates society/countries... and that is government.

So without government, limited or intrusive, capitalism would not work, let alone exist. It would be anarchy where the most powerful (biggest guns) would control everything.

While Capitalism is the best economic theory, it does have its massive flaws. The basic theory is to control production in the private sector and earn money. Without any restrictions this will ultimately lead to monopoly. Why? Because control of production and wealth means power, which means the wish to keep that power and that will ultimately mean that the one with most power will force out the rest and take control of everything. That is why you need government and regulations, to prevent this, and keep capitalism running with as much competition as possible. In the US you are failing the last part in many sectors, by putting in regulatory barriers on behalf of the few capitalistic mega companies to prevent any true capitalistic competition. Car dealerships and Tesla comes to mind, cable networks, airlines.. and so on and so on.
 
In his defense it does appear some on the left worship "government" so much it's easy to confuse with capitalism, socialism and communism....our loser human of a dictator for example is full of self worship and adulation.
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PeteEU said:
Someone needs to get his school money back.

You are mixing a ton of different theories together. Government is not an economic theory like Capitalism. And economic theories can not exist without a structured system that creates society/countries... and that is government.

So without government, limited or intrusive, capitalism would not work, let alone exist. It would be anarchy where the most powerful (biggest guns) would control everything.

While Capitalism is the best economic theory, it does have its massive flaws. The basic theory is to control production in the private sector and earn money. Without any restrictions this will ultimately lead to monopoly. Why? Because control of production and wealth means power, which means the wish to keep that power and that will ultimately mean that the one with most power will force out the rest and take control of everything. That is why you need government and regulations, to prevent this, and keep capitalism running with as much competition as possible. In the US you are failing the last part in many sectors, by putting in regulatory barriers on behalf of the few capitalistic mega companies to prevent any true capitalistic competition. Car dealerships and Tesla comes to mind, cable networks, airlines.. and so on and so on.
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TheDemSocialist said:
It in fact did demonstrate the the point, hence what i pasted proved that point.
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you seem to think corporations exist to pay taxes so that parasites in office can use that money to buy the votes of people like you
 
TurtleDude said:
you seem to think corporations exist to pay taxes so that parasites in office can use that money to buy the votes of people like you
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Mmmm. Rhetoric hit the spots. The "parasites"! Yes!
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Mmmm. Rhetoric hit the spots. The "parasites"! Yes!
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many politicians fit the definition of parasite

they take from us and give nothing in return

why are you defending such vermin?

Oh I know why, you didn't really read what I wrote-you thought I was referring to the sheeple who vote for left wing parasites who promise the sheeple the wealth of others
 
TurtleDude said:
many politicians fit the definition of parasite

they take from us and give nothing in return

why are you defending such vermin?

Oh I know why, you didn't really read what I wrote-you thought I was referring to the sheeple who vote for left wing parasites who promise the sheeple the wealth of others
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Yes the PARASITES!!! They suck! I hate them!
 
CalGun said:
You touting this survey of people's opinion as a fact?
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Touting as fact that majority of economists claim that growing wealth gap is not beneficial to the US economy.

Even when actual research proves the opinions of the spoon fed masses wrong? Seriously?
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What?
 
Um you are quoting an " AP " Survey and I quoted research with actual numbers and facts....to which you ignore since they don't promote your agenda.


TheDemSocialist said:
Touting as fact that majority of economists claim that growing wealth gap is not beneficial to the US economy.



What?
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CalGun said:
Um you are quoting an " AP " Survey and I quoted research with actual numbers and facts....to which you ignore since they don't promote your agenda.
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I'm gonna take economists opinions over CalGuns indpeth research.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I'm gonna take economists opinions over CalGuns indpeth research.
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It's not my research, it's done by academics at the California State University of Santa Cruz....you should know Santa Cruz...it's a bastion of socialism.

BTW why only 3 dozen economist is that all the radical left could find these days?
 
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CalGun said:
It's not my research, it's done by academics at the California State University of Santa Cruz....you should know Santa Cruz...it's a bastion of socialism.

BTW why only 3 dozen economist is that all the radical left could find these days?
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AP is a "radical left" organization?
 
Not compared to the University of Santa Cruz which you seem to like to deflect and ignore - the reality of their research? Does it not fit with your socialist agenda so you just ignore it?


TheDemSocialist said:
AP is a "radical left" organization?
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TheDemSocialist said:
No surprise here. Seems that this trickle down economic theory isnt working at all, also not a surprise.
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There is no economic theory called the trickle down theory, it simply does not exist.
 
Communism is a failure every time it is tried.
 
Juanita said:
I have no metric to offer, but will say--going down memory lane--that when wages were $1.60 an hour, $1.00 bought a lot of stuff.....$7.50 buys practically nothing...
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The Federal Reserve’s legalized counterfeiting and other poicies, and the IRS national income tax, consolidates wealth more to the elites than mere wage increases, redistribution, or other such laws or philosphies will remedy. The first step in balancing the “reverse Robin Hood” is the abolition of those things to curtail global economic elites, and deregulating legislation that makes it so hard for new businesses to spring up and create competition. Think about the raise the working man would get from not paying federal income tax, while stifling inflation that causes cost of living to go up without the pay increases to go with it. The minimum wage, or wage issue in general is more treating the symptom rather than the disease.
 
TML said:
The Federal Reserve’s legalized counterfeiting and other poicies, and the IRS national income tax, consolidates wealth more to the elites than mere wage increases, redistribution, or other such laws or philosphies will remedy. The first step in balancing the “reverse Robin Hood” is the abolition of those things to curtail global economic elites, and deregulating legislation that makes it so hard for new businesses to spring up and create competition. Think about the raise the working man would get from not paying federal income tax, while stifling inflation that causes cost of living to go up without the pay increases to go with it. The minimum wage, or wage issue in general is more treating the symptom rather than the disease.
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.....or could the higher prices simply be greed....I'm a big catalogue shopper and what I paid $10 for last year now costs $16...
 
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