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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No we weren't, wrong thread. We were talking about the wisdom of Mexico openning the management of it oil fields to all comers. You tried to shoehorn the crystal ball expense of climate change, specifically AGW, into the equation. And that last is silly to the extreme, BOTH parties are funded by big oil and gas.
    You responded to my response to Fenton

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No the massive debt is the consequence of millions of idiots equating empty plattitudes to Presidential qualifications in 2008 and 2012.

    A 5 year long " recovery as unemploymet benefits and disabillity benefits along with medicare cost have doubled.

    Nwxt time don't re-elect a President who's obe jobs iniative was a green jobs venture that wasted BILLIONS and created no jobs.
    How is the expense of climate change silly as being part of the equation??? If not for that then we might as well use all the fossil fuels we can get ahold of. Vehicles burn cleaner than ever so pollution isn't as much of a problem. Coal is still horrible to try and make cleaner. None of this matters though compared to climate change...

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's just silly, the Earth doesn't "adapt", it's geologically active and constantly changing. The adaption to the changing earth plants and animals experience takes many, many, many generations (naturally). Most likely the species involved will just go extinct or fall to a foote.
    Do you think so? I thought the plant zones have moved in the last 20 years.
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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Mexico is just waiting for a US collapse so they can invade us...

    They're not our friends and have never been- they're just bitter losers.
    Can't tell if you're joking, you should use the smileys if so. We've already had our continuing Mexican invasion, and the invaders go the way when the US isn't doing so well.

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Instability at the border is good for America? Get serious and call me when you've been paying attention to the last 6 years.
    I live near the border, this is bad news for many communities on both sides of that border.

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Do you think so? I thought the plant zones have moved in the last 20 years.
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    They have, but that's not just the last 20 years but all of planetary history. It has nothing to do with the specious comment about Earth "adapting" or even the adaption of the planet species themselves. In fact it shows they aren't adapting to changing conditions but relocating to places they can survive without adaption. Over time those plant species will adapt, or go extinct.

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, not in the way you are using the term. Biological adaptation has a meaning I don't think you get. Try this:

    Adaptation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Funny how I said adaptation and you said biological adaptation - which is speaking out both sides of ones face just using wacko PC language to do such - to separate the ideas.

    Wicki can justify just about every argument.

    Kudos to you tho for even going to a source instead of an op-ed piece in an attempt to justify your position.

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Maybe because that IS a natural process. It happenned before man came along and once man got here. Again, nothing unnatural or purely manmade about those dead zones.
    the nitroen cycle is natural, but what is not natural is the amount of nitrogen that is created by humans, mainly in the form of synthetic fertilizer. Farmers love the synthetic stuff, and use far more synthetic fertilizer than organic fertilizers such as manure and compost. all that ferilizer is chockfull of excess nitrogen, and some of this excess material eventually makes it to the ocean. that is where the trouble begins.

    all that excess nitrogen causes water to become polluted and it starts a massive growth of algae and phytoplankton, which feed on the nitrogen. this growth creates a greater demand for biochemical oxygen, a demand so great that it consumes the supply of oxygen in that region of water, which is now a dead zone.

    human activity, in this case farmers using vast amounts of artificial fertilizers on their farms, had a impact on causing a natural process, the nitrogen cycle, to go overboard and cause damage to the environment.
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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    You responded to my response to Fenton
    My apologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    How is the expense of climate change silly as being part of the equation??? If not for that then we might as well use all the fossil fuels we can get ahold of. Vehicles burn cleaner than ever so pollution isn't as much of a problem. Coal is still horrible to try and make cleaner. None of this matters though compared to climate change...
    It's extremely silly because the baisc truth is climate is ALWAYS changing, the planet we live on is geologically active and ALWAYS changing. It was that way before man and will be that way after. Like arguing Mexico shouldn't open it's leases to the outside because there is air.

    Climate change is a basic fact of life on this planet.

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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Funny how I said adaptation and you said biological adaptation - which is speaking out both sides of ones face just using wacko PC language to do such - to separate the ideas.

    Wicki can justify just about every argument.

    Kudos to you tho for even going to a source instead of an op-ed piece in an attempt to justify your position.
    the problem is that the process of adaptation takes time on a scale of hundreds of thousands of years.
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    Re: North America to Drown in Oil as Mexico Ends Monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Funny how I said adaptation and you said biological adaptation - which is speaking out both sides of ones face just using wacko PC language to do such - to separate the ideas.

    Wicki can justify just about every argument.

    Kudos to you tho for even going to a source instead of an op-ed piece in an attempt to justify your position.
    Notice the link isn't to "biological adaptation" but "adaptation". I added the biological so you might understand you were misusing the word in the context of the discussion. Thus far you have demonstrated that you don't understand my position.

    Perhaps a refresher course at the local community college, Bio 101 might help you to understand that "adaptation" is indeed a defined term in biology and not some PC invention.
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