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    Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    Judge: NSA spying

    In a stinging rebuke to President Barack Obama’s surveillance policies, a federal judge on Monday branded the National Security Agency’s mass collection of Americans’ telephone data “almost Orwellian” and likely a violation of the Constitution. Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden cheered the ruling.

    Appeals Court Judge Richard Leon invoked Founding Father James Madison and the Beatles in a frequently scathing ruling. Leon, appointed by then-President George W. Bush, ordered the government to halt bulk collection of so-called telephony metadata and destroy information already collected through that program. But he suspended his order as the case works its way through the courts.
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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    What case does this ruling apply to?
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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    ...in other news, water is wet....the sky's blue...the sun's hot...
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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Yeah judge.

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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    The Supreme Court will ultimately uphold unlimited spying.
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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    It will all come down to one basic argument:

    "We (the govt) are only collecting this information. We don't actually look at it until we have reasonable cause and seek a warrant."

    Which is, of course, contrary to the intent of constitutionally-protected privacy. Taking protected information is when the warrant is needed, not when the NSA dubiously claims they will actually peak into it.

    But I'm sure some on the SC will buy the horsesh1t being sold to them. I know a lot of kool-aiders on this board will.

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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    Not "almost" IS!

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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    I have no confidence in the unaccountable plutocrats running our government. Even if it gets smacked down as totally unconstitutional (it won't) they're still gonna be putting cameras up our asses and just not tell us about it.

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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    Any chance the "PATRIOT" act being removed in the future then?
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    Re: Judge: NSA spying ‘almost Orwellian,’ likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The Supreme Court will ultimately uphold unlimited spying.
    Of course they will, they've been suspect for years.

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