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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Of course the White House is going to ignore this dubious award. If they give it any attention, they just draw the public's eyes to it far more than if they ignored it.

    It's be interesting to see Carney's reaction if one of the White House Press Corps brought this up as a question to him. Probably swift and violent retribution of some sort, but that's just my guess.

    Why the majority of the media is ignoring this? Depends on which media I guess. The Biased Lame Stream Media won't report on this because they are actively complicit in protecting this President from any bad press exposure. This includes which stories they report on and which they don't as well as which stories are highlighted, front page above the fold, and which are relegated to the back pages and essentially covered but buried.

    Other news outlets have spent a fair amount of reporting on the obvious presidential lies that my guess is they are now starting to be de-emphasized their coverage of it.
    Carney is such a tool. He'll parse it to death like Sebelius tried to do, or in his infamous way "I'd have to refer you to such and such."

    Journalists repeatedly asked Carney questions about how the Obamacare exchanges website was being fixed. By the end of the briefing, Carney had referred questions to HHS at least 10 separate times, according to a transcript.

    Toward the end of the briefing, a reporter asked Carney whether HHS would actually answer the questions reporters were seeking answers to. Reporters have been frustrated by the lack of specific and timely responses from HHS.

    Carney responded by again referring questions to HHS.
    Carney refers questions to HHS

    Press secretary? Putin's Russian 'news network' has about as much credibility as this WH.
    Nixonian masters of disinformation. or at least dissembling.

    Putin dissolves state news agency, tightens grip on Russia media | Reuters
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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, like Ezekiel Emmanuel on Fox trying to spin that it wasn't a lie because you could "keep your doctor, if you want to pay more"..... LOL! What? Are you kidding? Pay more? Liar n chief Obama also said that this law would save people $2500 per year! Did they forget that too?
    Had Obama said, "if you like your doctor and you can afford to pay more than you are currently, you can keep your doctor" it would have been better. But still yet, insurance companies are dropping doctors as well. So, if yours was one dropped then I guess your willingness or ability to pay more is a moot point.

    Btw. Amongst the varied reasons insurance companies are dropping doctors is over fee scheduling. Believe it or not doctors aren't as schooled on the business end of their practice as they are on the medicine end, which I realize is a good thing on one level, but when a doctor performs a level 4 exam and charts a level two the insurance company pays it without a peep. Say there is a difference of $40.00 between the two levels on a given exam. And he does 4 or 5 of these a day (they see on average 25-30 patients a day so that number could be higher, depending) that's $160.00-$200.00 a day times five, times four and it adds up to some serious money. Now, try billing a level 4 for a level 2 exam and see if the insurance company pays it without a peep. The doctor that bills level 4 for performing level 4 exams are experiencing some purging.

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? So now he's on par with used car salesmen? Lol, this just keeps getting better...I don't buy for a second that he simply didn't know he was lying. That's laughable.


    Nah.....it's more like a school bus driver. Hey you kids.....I said everybody to the back of the bus. You Republicans all the way in the back.

    Now.....don't be louder than my tunes as I have to keeps watch out for trains coming our way.

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    You expected the king to respond to us lowly serfs?

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Which the USA doesn't have.
    Come on shrub, he was making a funny so I responded in kind.

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    If it was Hillary and Bill, I'd agree they lied. But, Obama isn't detail oriented enough to know what the fine print in what the hell he said really meant. You doubt this?
    gawd almighty, are we to the point where ineptitude trumps lying?? I don't disagree with you, it's just so pathetic.
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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    gawd almighty, are we to the point where ineptitude trumps lying?? I don't disagree with you, it's just so pathetic.
    I think we are at that point. WMD in Iraq ring a bell?

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    As others have pointed out, there were really three big lies that were used to sell Obamacare:

    1) "If you like your plan you can keep your plan" - Lie. Made worse by the slimey attempt at blaming those who liked their plans by telling them the plans they liked were junk.

    2) "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" - Also a lie. This claim was made even while all the polls were showing that doctors by a large margin wouldn't be accepting ACA plans.

    3) "ACA will save the average family $2500 in premiums annually" - A double lie. On the one hand no, premiums are skyrocketing (lie 1), and when they aren't going up the out of pocket is skyrocketing (a lie of omission). ACA doesn't save the average family any money. It costs them more.

    But, also as has been pointed out already, he couldn't sell ACA on the truth that it would cost more, you could lose your doctor and those with insurance stand a serious risk of losing it.
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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    As others have pointed out, there were really three big lies that were used to sell Obamacare:

    1) "If you like your plan you can keep your plan" - Lie. Made worse by the slimey attempt at blaming those who liked their plans by telling them the plans they liked were junk.

    2) "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" - Also a lie. This claim was made even while all the polls were showing that doctors by a large margin wouldn't be accepting ACA plans.

    3) "ACA will save the average family $2500 in premiums annually" - A lie of two fronts. On the one hand no, premiums are skyrocketing, and when they aren't the out of pocket is skyrocketing. ACA doesn't save the average family any money. It costs them more.

    But, also as has been pointed out already, he couldn't sell ACA on the truth that it would cost more, you could lose your doctor and those with insurance stand a serious risk of losing it.
    Heya JM. Plus the one I showed about not adding one dime to the deficit.

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    Re: White House ignores 'lie of the year' award

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JM. Plus the one I showed about not adding one dime to the deficit.
    True. But I don't think that one was essential to selling Obamacare. Americans have a rather fatalistic view of deficits at this point. The real hard sell were the three that were meant to make it sound worth the effort.
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