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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Plenty of room. Simply take out the two, as is done for business partnership contracts.
    Sure, only that doesn't address divorce laws, legal guardianship laws, alimony payments, etc. Here's a scenario: Imagine I'm married to 3 women and they're also married to each other. If 2 of those women decide to divorce me but not each other, do I have to pay them spousal support? Why?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what ruling on SSM resulted in this ruling? In fact, what argument for SSM resulted in this ruling? In fact, what does this ruling have to do with marriage?
    Your questions are baffling, because they're partially answered in what you're quoting, and asking what the ruling in the story has to do with marriage is . . . well, did you even read the story?

    What exactly is your motivation for arguing with me, anyway?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Your questions are baffling, because they're partially answered in what you're quoting, and asking what the ruling in the story has to do with marriage is . . . well, did you even read the story?

    What exactly is your motivation for arguing with me, anyway?
    That your whole slippery slope is built on nothing. I understand not answering the questions, since that would ruin your slippery slope. Running away from them is cowardly, but prudent.
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure, only that doesn't address divorce laws, legal guardianship laws, alimony payments, etc. Here's a scenario: Imagine I'm married to 3 women and they're also married to each other. If 2 of those women decide to divorce me but not each other, do I have to pay them spousal support? Why?
    That is an easy scenario to avoid (solve?); keep bigamy illegal - one can be in only one marriage contract at a time.
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    I do not stand against gay marriage. And I could care less if some Morman's, hippies, Hara Krishnas, doomsday preppers, or whatever, want to dance naked around a fire and have multiple wife swapping parties on mushroom juice. Don't care. Do your thang.

    But what I do care about is the manipulation of the welfare system and society having to pay for anti-society lifestyles who figured out how to get over on the system.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As I've said many times, the government should not be in the marriage business in today's society. Lots of lawyers are available to draw up lots of varied contracts to serve the needs of people in any combination of union they choose or desire.
    Exactly. As long as government insists on poking its nose into the private lives of people, there's going to be debates about what kind of sexual activity should be legal. If divorce lawyers have their way, polygamy will be legal.

    Personally, I can't really see what's attractive about polygamy. Getting divorced once has been bad enough.


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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That your whole slippery slope is built on nothing. I understand not answering the questions, since that would ruin your slippery slope. Running away from them is cowardly, but prudent.
    Even more baffling. You missed the part where the questions were answered before you even asked them.

    Saying that someone is running away is not the same as them actually running away.

    So you tell me -- if marriage is a fundamental right which can't be denied on arbitrary grounds, and people have the freedom to decide whom to love and whom to make families with, and these are fundamental, constitutional rights, on what grounds to you deny polyamory, group marriages, or any other arrangement between consenting adults?

    Be specific.
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Exactly. As long as government insists on poking its nose into the private lives of people, there's going to be debates about what kind of sexual activity should be legal. If divorce lawyers have their way, polygamy will be legal.

    Personally, I can't really see what's attractive about polygamy. Getting divorced once has been bad enough.
    Right!?!?

    I can understand a man pissing on an electric fence or sticking his tongue on a frozen lamp pole ONCE.

    But twice, three times, more? That guy is just an idiot.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    I might be wrong but I thought this was what Utah was all about anyway... Does anyone even leave or visit?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That your whole slippery slope is built on nothing. I understand not answering the questions, since that would ruin your slippery slope. Running away from them is cowardly, but prudent.
    I don't speak for Harshaw, but I believe that you'd have to agree that the initial stage in the movement towards the recognition of gay unions and marriage was fighting to get gay sexual activity off the criminal ledgers and accepted in modern society. Without removing the illegality of the act, there could be no move to codify and sanction the coupling. Likewise, removing polygamy from the criminal domain may be the first step in accepting it and then codifying and sanctioning in law polygamous marriages.
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