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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Then we are in agreement. I have no problem with polygamy. It already exists. I should have stated my problem is with bigamy mostly on legal grounds. It would create a legal nightmare to have a 3 way divorce.
    Key word - "divorce" - which implies government involvement.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Key word - "divorce" - which implies government involvement.
    So what?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Key word - "divorce" - which implies government involvement.
    .. Yes. So?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And you can believe whatever the **** you like...
    That was an odd response to TacticalEvilDan. Since when is quoting considered a subjective opinion?
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You know how many states do not require parental consent for minors to have an abortion? Five.

    And you're totally changing the definition of informed consent to fit your slippery slope argument.
    No that is incorrect. There are currently 7 states that do not require parental notification and there are another 9 that are currently enjoined. There are two states that have to notify the parents but the parents have no say.

    You see there truly is such a thing as a slippery slope.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No that is incorrect. There are currently 7 states that do not require parental notification and there are another 9 that are currently enjoined. There are two states that have to notify the parents but the parents have no say.

    You see there truly is such a thing as a slippery slope.
    Parental consent laws for abortion =/= age of consent laws for sexual activity or marriage. They are completely different animals.
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No that is incorrect. There are currently 7 states that do not require parental notification and there are another 9 that are currently enjoined. There are two states that have to notify the parents but the parents have no say.

    You see there truly is such a thing as a slippery slope.
    Only half the states prohibit marriage between first cousins.

    That had no relevance to your post, but I added it because it at least has some semblance to this thread.
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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So what?
    It's mind boggling how you and the clowns like you actually believe government is great when in reality government is responsible for just about every atrocity that has ever occurred on this planet.

    Then you wonder why things are so ****ed up and why we go to war...

    Every elected official and government employee is an authoritarian loon... Maybe not every - I can make an exception.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    If marriage is no longer between a man and a woman but can now include same sexes and according to this article a man can have more than one wife. Soon it will be changed that a woman can have more than one husband. So since there are no absolutes anymore, a woman and her cat, a man and his horse....what's stopping it? Heck today some people love and put more value on their animals than another human being. There is already a push to loosen incest laws. Marriage is on its way to being anything you want it to be IMO.
    First off get educated. Polygamy means multiple spouses and does not denote gender in any aspect. Polygyny is 1 man multiple wives and polyandry is 1 woman and multiple husbands. So if polygamy is made legal it will be a woman allowed to have multiple husbands and for that matter any combination of spouses such as 2 men and 3 woman. As to what is stopping humans with animals, that would be the whole being able to give informed consent thing. Can you show how polygamy, in and of itself, removes the informed consent aspect, and thus putting it on parallel with marrying animals?

    Any yes some of those incest laws do need to be loosened. While you can make the blood argument, there is no real argument for those who are only related legally. Why shouldn't Greg Brady have been able to marry Marcia?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The article that started this thread.



    No longer will you be arrested for practicing polygamy. Polygamy is clearly on the same path that homosexual relations once were. First they dropped the sodomy laws. Then came the legalization of same sex marriages. Currently incest laws are being challenged in some states. What happens when/if they drop them too? How many people realize in France even though it is frowned upon it has been legal for brothers and sisters of the same parent to marry since Napoleon. Lots of countries all over the world are dropping incest laws. Some countries allow marriage others do not allow marriage like Japan but do not find it a crime to engage in incest with consenting adults.
    Your ignorance shows through again. With the exception of Utah till now, you couldn't have been arrested for practising polygamy to begin with, unless you were fraudulently obtaining multiple legal marriage certificates. Currently polygamy is being practised by thousands if not tens of thousands and none of them are breaking any laws elsewhere. And now they are not in Utah either.

    Oh horror, sodomy laws were dropped. Now it's no longer illegal to get a blow job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The law s also being challenged with regard to adults having sex with children though I can't recall the acronym.
    Your evidence of this statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No Dan I don't think I have misunderstood. What the judge did was ruled that you will no longer face jail time for practicing polygamy. What the judge did was put polygamy on the road to becoming legal just like the judge that legalized sodomy put in motion legalizing same sex marriages.
    I think you're confusing polygamy with polyamory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And you can believe whatever the **** you like...
    Pot, meet kettle.

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    Re: Polygamy Advocate Groups Hail Judge Ruling in Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That was an odd response to TacticalEvilDan. Since when is quoting considered a subjective opinion?

    What were you expecting, a status quo?

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