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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Grip. What I also find interesting is that the Chinese are putting up a GPS type satellite and they are encasing ours......While extending their reach away.

    Myself, I think we should get something built on the moon before anyone else does. Some sort of Lunar base. Eventually we will lose the space station. Plus the Chinese want to put their own Space Lab in orbit.

    The Chinese aren't looking with any narrow vision.....nor should we.
    The US has been looking at upgrading the GPS satellite system for a while now.
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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    So while they're looking at it, China's doing it, no big deal.

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

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    The sad part is that a lot of people don't have a sense of humor.
    Nah, it's just not funny. I'm not Chinese or anything, so I'm not insulted; it's just so lame and dumb. I guess I am kinda insulted as someone that tells jokes, though, because that's just lazy.
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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

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    The US has been looking at upgrading the GPS satellite system for a while now.
    Yeah well we best get into the game.....as trying to guess what the Chinese are doing isn't working out to swell with Obama's Team.


    A set of three mysterious satellites has experts guessing about the Chinese space program's intentions. No one really knows what the Chinese are up to, and everything is speculation.

    Under debate are the orbital antics of several newcomers to space the Chinese satellites Shiyan-7, Chuangxin-3 and Shijian-15 which all launched into orbit together on July 20. Experts are also discussing the actions of China's elder spacecraft Shijian-7, which launched more than eight years ago.



    One of the trio of new Chinese satellites, Shiyan-7 (SY-7, Experiment 7), has since made a sudden maneuver. That satellite had already finished a series of orbital alterations that put it close to one of the companion satellites with which it was launched, the Chuangxin-3 (CX-3).

    "Suddenly, however, it made a surprise rendezvous with a completely different satellite, Shijian 7 (SJ-7, Practice 7), launched in 2005," noted Marcia Smith, a space policy analyst and founder and editor of SpacePolicyOnline.com.

    Soon after the July launch, it was known that one of the three satellites carried "a prototype manipulator arm to capture other satellites," a tool that might be "a predecessor of an arm destined to be aboard China's large space station, set for launch in 2020 or soon thereafter," wrote Bob Christy on zarya.info

    The mystery surrounding the recent launches fits the Chinese pattern, said Dean Cheng, a research fellow on Chinese political and security affairs at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C.

    "Not sure why these are a surprise, other than that the Chinese don't tell us what they're going to do, so anything they do comes without a convenient press briefing," he said

    "But it is perhaps useful here to recall that the People's Republic of China remains intent upon establishing space dominance as part of their thinking about 'fighting and winning local wars under informationized conditions,'" Cheng said. And, even as the Chinese call for greater military-to-military contact with the United States, it's true "that they remain opaque, and that they pretty much refuse to engage the U.S. on military space issues.".....snip~



    Mysterious Actions of Chinese Satellites Have Experts Guessing

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/asia/1...-guessing.html

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    They're just a paper tiger, back to sleep now.

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They're just a paper tiger, back to sleep now.
    Mornin' Monte. Thought that might put things into perspective.....and how that doesn't look to good in my eyes.

    But both China and the United States are experimenting with close-proximity maneuvers in space, said Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Washington, D.C.-based Stimson Center and director of its South Asia and Space Security programs. Both nations have demonstrated ASAT capabilities, Krepon told SPACE.com.

    Information derived from actual or purported tests for ballistic missile defense, he said, can also be applied for ASAT purposes.

    "Beijing and Washington have a choice to make, the same choice that Moscow and Washington faced during the Cold War," Krepon said.

    "Major powers can ramp up a competition to damage satellites, or they can arrive at tacit agreements to dampen this competition," he said. "The United States and the Soviet Union chose wisely. China has yet to choose.".....snip~

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Monte. Thought that might put things into perspective.....and how that doesn't look to good in my eyes.

    But both China and the United States are experimenting with close-proximity maneuvers in space, said Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Washington, D.C.-based Stimson Center and director of its South Asia and Space Security programs. Both nations have demonstrated ASAT capabilities, Krepon told SPACE.com.

    Information derived from actual or purported tests for ballistic missile defense, he said, can also be applied for ASAT purposes.

    "Beijing and Washington have a choice to make, the same choice that Moscow and Washington faced during the Cold War," Krepon said.

    "Major powers can ramp up a competition to damage satellites, or they can arrive at tacit agreements to dampen this competition," he said. "The United States and the Soviet Union chose wisely. China has yet to choose.".....snip~
    Good morning MMC. Yeah bud, I knew what you were doing and I appreciate it. I was just being sarcastic, I guess because mama brought me bitter coffee this morning.

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Good morning MMC. Yeah bud, I knew what you were doing and I appreciate it. I was just being sarcastic, I guess because mama brought me bitter coffee this morning.
    Truthfully NASA does have plans to put someone back on the moon......so we do need to figure out what we can do there. I am sure we can get drones to drill......so even if we had to put a structure under ground.

    The only thing I don't like is the US having to share information and that we agreed to not build anything military and take advantage of the situation.

    Tell you one thing......I would rather stop all the money to the ME and put it all here until we are ahead of others. That issue with the Satellites will need to be dealt with one way or another.

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Truthfully NASA does have plans to put someone back on the moon......so we do need to figure out what we can do there. I am sure we can get drones to drill......so even if we had to put a structure under ground.

    The only thing I don't like is the US having to share information and that we agreed to not build anything military and take advantage of the situation.

    Tell you one thing......I would rather stop all the money to the ME and put it all here until we are ahead of others. That issue with the Satellites will need to be dealt with one way or another.
    Hey MMC, did NASA tell the President of their plans?

    Where are they going to get the money to do this?

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    Re: China lands Jade Rabbit robot rover on Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Hey MMC, did NASA tell the President of their plans?

    Where are they going to get the money to do this?
    Mornin Mason. As I hear it they are looking for private investors as well as cooperative ventures with others.


    Nasa to build permanent moon base



    Nasa has announced plans to build a permanent base on the moon by 2024 - raising the prospect of a manned space flight to Mars.

    The ambitious proposals signal the next phase of space exploration after the agency's space shuttles are retired in 2010 and marks a radical departure from previous short trips to the moon.

    The international base will be permanently staffed by 2024, four years after astronauts land on the moon to begin assembly.

    Once complete, astronauts from the US and other nations will spend up to six months on the base at any one time.

    Nasa said the two key reasons for establishing a base were to prepare for a manned mission to Mars - and ultimately the expansion of human civilisation to other planets. The project is likely to cost hundreds of billions of dollars and involve Nasa partners in Europe, Russia and Japan, although China's participation is unlikely.

    "This is not a flag-and-footprints. This is the idea of starting an outward movement that includes long stays on the moon," said John Logsdon, the director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University.

    The first step in establishing the base will be a new generation of lunar spaceships, which will undergo tests from 2009.

    Manned flights will begin in 2014 and astronauts will land on the moon - for the first time since the Apollo mission of 1972 - in 2020.....snip~

    Nasa to build permanent moon base | Science | theguardian.com

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...-system-2.html

    Lets not forget Russia has already proposed of putting a colony on the moon too.

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