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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    This is the exact formula for failing Vietnam. You invested millions of dollars they used mud, feces, tunnels, and free snakes. Cannot you wise up from this sort of engagement?
    And those tactics failed, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

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    And those tactics failed, too.
    Cheap or multi mil tactics failed too?
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Wtf kinda wording is that in the quote?? "Pressumed to be an extremist"

    So if dude sees some farmer on a cam and called in "Hey I think this guy might be an extremist" Can the decider go, "You pressumed it, fire."?
    yes. that is the criteria for "signature strikes" ( their behavior/profile fits the 'signature' of a terrorist/militant).
    We use signature strikes in Yemen too - although that article is about Pakistan.

    From all I know - despite Obama's so called "reset" on the NYT link I posted - nothing really has changed.
    Not the frequency, not the criteria, not the fact this is still run by the CIA.

    If you noticed lately the US does a lot of "no comments", and true to form, STILL no comment on this international incident.
    We just wait for the body parts to be scraped off the road/reload/ and do it again.
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    The American military commander called President Hamid Karzai to apologize for a drone strike in southern Helmand Province, which the military conceded had killed and wounded civilians, a coalition official said on Friday.

    “He talked to President Karzai directly, expressed deep regrets for the incident and any civilian casualties, and promised to convene an immediate joint investigation to determine all the facts of what happened,” a coalition spokesman said, speaking on the condition of anonymity in line with official policy.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/30/wo...ghanistan.html
    this was the drone strike that killed the child.
    Since karzai is holding up the SOFA agreeement, we will say "gee we're really sorry about that -deep regrets"
    -so we can keep our bases in Afganistan.

    The difference in Yemen, is their president actively supports our drone useage -there is some kind of civil war/unreast
    ( too lazy to look it up);so we have a willing partner in Yemen.

    Amd AQAP is considered to be some kind of elevated "terrorist" threat - which leaves US drone happy, and unrepentant.
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    A couple points:

    1) Drones are the future of warfare (period).
    2) If we aren't developing, then someone else will eventually and then we're behind the power curve
    3) Drones are cheaper than training people to be in a cockpit, and don't require all of the life support systems that manned aircraft need
    4) Drones are politically correct because if one crashes, no one dies on board
    5) Drones can loiter miles overhead for long periods of time

    We don't need to use drones, but it makes sense given the above points. Drones don't kill people, people do. So it sounds like your beef is more about the process of determining targets rather than the method by which they are struck. After all, a drone overhead is only as dangerous as the commands that are sent to it.
    Lets get this straight: you think we can fall behind technologically by not using drones when we have the capability of blowing up the entire world with our nuclear capabilities multiple times over?
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Surgical precision they say, minimal civilian casualties they say. Even if in the past the US has been truthful with the number of civilians killed (and honestly what are the chances of that?), this cannot be overlooked. When are we going to realize that these killings are making more enemies than we are taking out. If somebody shot a drone into the US to take out a "strategic target" and hit a wedding convey we would be outraged, and sending out entire military overseas to deal with it. If Yemen so much as considers retaliation against the United States we would be all over them.
    We would be outraged even if the strategically targeted hit were accurate and no civilians were involved.
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    obama just showing everyone why he one a nobel peace prize.

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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    The security committee, headed by President Abdrabuh Mansur Hadi, said Thursday's strike targeted "a car that belonged to one of the leaders of Al-Qaeda".

    Two of the dead whose names were released -- Saleh al-Tays and Abdullah al-Tays -- had figured on past government lists of wanted Al-Qaeda suspects.
    But most of those killed were civilians of the Al-Tays and Al-Ameri clans headed for the wedding.
    Amnesty International said confusion over who was behind the raid "exposes a serious lack of accountability for scores of civilian deaths in the country."
    Yemen tribe boosts protest over civilian drone deaths
    so it's the same crap. no accountability to speak of, no US comment, and nothing changes.
    We are doing the dirty work for the Yemeni regime
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
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    "Let us remember that the terrorists we are after target civilians, and the death toll from their acts of terrorism against Muslims dwarfs any estimate of civilian casualties from drone strikes," Obama said.
    Obama Told Aides He's 'Really Good At Killing People,' New Book 'Double Down' Claims
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    Re: Yemen says U.S. drone struck a wedding convoy, killing 14

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
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    Obama Told Aides He's 'Really Good At Killing People,' New Book 'Double Down' Claims
    threadworthy reference -TY
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