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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    okay, how about vehicular homicide ?
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    While I am very sympathetic to the people outraged over this, mislabeling it murder is just needless
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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    okay, how about vehicular homicide ?
    I really don't understand the point of your question. Clearly murder is in no way the proper label here

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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    While I am very sympathetic to the people outraged over this, mislabeling it murder is just needless
    I thought manslaughter was when it was an accident? I think when you drink take drugs and speed behind the wheel of a mass of metal that weighs tons... sorry but I just see it was murder /; but you're right I shouldnt call it that he didnt take out a gun and shoot people in the face

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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    I thought manslaughter was when it was an accident? I think when you drink take drugs and speed behind the wheel of a mass of metal that weighs tons... sorry but I just see it was murder /; but you're right I shouldnt call it that he didnt take out a gun and shoot people in the face
    I'm sorry a simple legal definition escapes you. Maybe look up the term online and do yourself the favor of reading up on it for future reference

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    I do. I'm just curiius why the Libbos didn't get sand in their clits over it. Oh, wait, he's black. My bad, Deuce.
    Wow, was the vulgarity needed in mixed company?

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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

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    Wow, was the vulgarity needed in mixed company?
    Yes, darlin', it was. My apologies, to you.
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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

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    Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com

    Wait a kid can go get drunk and murder four people and not be charged for it because he is too rich? I am so angry about this surely we cannot use someones upbringing to excuse crimes, I blame alot of crimes on bad upbringing but that does not excuse the crime in question.... why should we put people in jail that has abusive parents who didnt teach them to follow the rules? yet let a really rich kid walk free because "He was so rich he believed money solved all of his problems"
    Here's an alternative POV: Ethan Couch Should Have Gone to Prison, but Justice? There's No Justice for Texas Kids.

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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What makes you think justice will be served with lawsuits??
    I can see him divesting and heading off-shore..

    Couch has already gotten away with vehicular homicide .
    What makes you think that this young, pampered, totally irresponsible moron will not violate his probation and get the balance of the ten years of incarceration he is due? Would it make you feel better if the victims get the "satisfaction" of having this young moron locked up immediately and do not get any financial settlement?

    Another way of looking at this is that the actual crime was operating a vehicle while intoxicated, not that the vehicle struck and killed/injured others. Imagine, for a moment, that the same irresponsible moron was sober, merely having had turned his head briefly while chatting with a friend in the back of the pickup and had the same "accident". Would that then make it non-criminal?

    I say not, it should still be criminal to cause an "accident" that resulted in death and injury. But our justice system, more often than not, presses no criminal charges at all with sober, yet irresponsible morons that are distracted "unlucky" drivers.

    The crime was not vehicular manslaughter, it was manslaughter resulting from intoxicated driving. Imagine, for a moment that the police saw this same moron, swerving as he drove, and pulled him over prior to the "accident" and found him to be driving while drunk. Would that make him any less guilty?

    I say not, just more lucky that the police got to him before he killed or injured anyone. Since we base our justice (certainly the sentence severity) on the result of a criminal act, and not on the criminal act itself then DUI/DWI are only "serious" crimes for the "unlucky" offender.
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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com

    Wait a kid can go get drunk and murder four people and not be charged for it because he is too rich? I am so angry about this surely we cannot use someones upbringing to excuse crimes, I blame alot of crimes on bad upbringing but that does not excuse the crime in question.... why should we put people in jail that has abusive parents who didnt teach them to follow the rules? yet let a really rich kid walk free because "He was so rich he believed money solved all of his problems"
    The irony in this defense is insane...

    The judge is basically proving the kid right -which in turn moots the purpose of the defense in the first place, because he's legitimizing the kids defense which makes everything the kid said TRUE, hence he's NOT insane and DOES NOT SUFFER FROM A MENTAL DISORDER.

    This kid belongs in prison - at least - until he's 21, however I like 15 years a lot better.
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    Re: Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm sorry a simple legal definition escapes you. Maybe look up the term online and do yourself the favor of reading up on it for future reference
    why are you being so aggresive...? english is not my first language

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