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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

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    People who despise America or hate that America is essentially a free and capitalist society try to destroy all of the foundations of this Nation in order to try to fashion America into something it isnt'
    Fighting crosses while promoting drugs and food stamps. Seems like a strange new country is evolving in the former
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

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    Fighting crosses while promoting drugs and food stamps. Seems like a strange new country is evolving in the former
    Superpower..
    almost everyone who gets their panties in a knot over Crosses on public property are far lefties who want people to stop worshipping God and start bowing to big brother instead. THe far left has something in common with the Laws of Moses

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

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    I'm an agnostic, Henry David, and respond the same way you do with the exception of seeing seeing a cross on a hill, or on a highway roadside to mark where a pedestrian has been killed. It's government land there also but what pettiness would be required for anyone to ask that the cross be moved because its the government promoting religion?

    I really don't care about seeing a cross and feel it might make a nice break in the landscape and could wonder at the strong feeling of anyone who put it there.. A tree might have the same effect. A billboard would not.

    I don't know how the government is promoting religion in this instance. A cross has meaning to some and not to others. I don't know why people would spend all their time and money on a threat that isn't there. It seems like a live and let live situation and these people attacking a cross put up by their fellow Americans should be putting their time and energy to better use elsewhere.
    I do understand your point, and it's a good point.

    I object to the cross on the hill in California ONLY because of how it plays versus the rule of law. Because I support Americans United for Separation of Church & State, I've been reading about the legal battle over that symbol for years. I thought some private entity was going to buy either the real estate or the cross itself, but have not been keeping up with the case.

    IF it is government property that the cross is on, it should be removed. I don't object to the cross itself, I object to the cross being on government property.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I do understand your point, and it's a good point.

    I object to the cross on the hill in California ONLY because of how it plays versus the rule of law. Because I support Americans United for Separation of Church & State, I've been reading about the legal battle over that symbol for years. I thought some private entity was going to buy either the real estate or the cross itself, but have not been keeping up with the case.

    IF it is government property that the cross is on, it should be removed. I don't object to the cross itself, I object to the cross being on government property.
    Ever been to Arlington Cemetery?



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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Ever been to Arlington Cemetery?
    No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!

    How does the Arlington cemetery compare to the hill in CA?

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm an agnostic, Henry David, and respond the same way you do with the exception of seeing seeing a cross on a hill, or on a highway roadside to mark where a pedestrian has been killed. It's government land there also but what pettiness would be required for anyone to ask that the cross be moved because its the government promoting religion?

    I really don't care about seeing a cross and feel it might make a nice break in the landscape and could wonder at the strong feeling of anyone who put it there.. A tree might have the same effect. A billboard would not.

    I don't know how the government is promoting religion in this instance. A cross has meaning to some and not to others. I don't know why people would spend all their time and money on a threat that isn't there. It seems like a live and let live situation and these people attacking a cross put up by their fellow Americans should be putting their time and energy to better use elsewhere.
    You'll have strong feelings when it's Islamic symbols instead of yours.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!

    How does the Arlington cemetery compare to the hill in CA?
    government property with crosses on it



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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You'll have strong feelings when it's Islamic symbols instead of yours.
    this country was founded by Islamists?



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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    government property with crosses on it
    One a cemetery, the other not. More importantly, the cemetery includes the symbols of other religions.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    One a cemetery, the other not. More importantly, the cemetery includes the symbols of other religions.
    its a much ado about nothing. The people whining have stupid grievances that extend far past faux indignation over a cross



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