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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wonder all you want. I gave you the only answer you are going to get.
    No amount of discourse will change what is happening, and therefore any discussion is rendered moot.
    Translation: "I have no real basis for this non-point so I don't want to be forced to defend it."

    Look, Christians, you don't have the right to government sponsorship of your religion. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Translation: "I have no real basis for this non-point so I don't want to be forced to defend it."

    Look, Christians, you don't have the right to government sponsorship of your religion. Get over it.
    Your response in nonsensical to what was said. On both counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Your response in nonsensical to what was said. On both counts.
    Why do you think the government should promote Christianity and not Islam?
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you think the government should promote Christianity and not Islam?
    As I said. Nonsensical on both counts.

    What the hell do you think the following words in the quote mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As I am not a believe of religion that isn't to what I speak.
    And in case you have trouble when someone makes a typo, the word is believer.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    What is so difficult to understand about the government being neutral on religious matters? Why is it so difficult for religious neutrality to be enforced?

    In this case, finally, it seems government neutrality has been enforced by this court, so I applaud the decision.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    If someone wants to erect a cross of private land I would obviously support their right to do so. However, this clearly violates the Constitution when government erects it or it is on government land.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Here's my 2 cents. I believe strongly in separation of church and state. However, I believe the cross represents a memorial to those who died, rather than a religious symbol. To take it down, IMHO, would be a disservice to all who died for their country, that this memorial represents.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    As long as it's just symbolism, let the cross stay.

    So long as laws are not favouring one religion over another, I don't really care what dumbass religious symbol the government puts up.

    BTW - for the record - I believe all major religions are a complete and total waste of time.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Thinking tactically here: In order to promote atheism one must strike at the symbols of religion wherever they are and argue for their removal. That's what happening here - this isn't about a separation of church and state, it's not about the people who died (though it should be) which inspired the cross to be erected, it's about dismantling a belief system and the power that system has over people. Let people believe what they want - in Mother Earth, God, Allah, the Sun god Ra --- who cares? The cross on that piece of ground does no harm to anyone yet it now under court order must be removed. Stupid.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    It appears that this action (removal of a symbol) does more to explicitly demonstrate that the government is supportive of non-religion than to demonstrate that it is simply neutral or removed on religious matters. That would seem to be counter to what protections were intended for religions from government and vice-versa.

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