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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    They need to stop hating on Christianity.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    They need to stop hating on Christianity.
    When atheists are critical of religion it is usually Christianity. They are largely silent on Islam and Hinduism, among scores of others.. That tends to make them one-dimensional.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Atheists are all about removing all signs of religion in the United States, especially the Christian religion. They want everything gone, completely. They would take the cross off your grandmother's gravestone, dig her up and take the cross off her neck if they could get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And yet, after all those decades of trying to stifle religion, through murder, theft and destruction, it seems to have made a comeback. Perhaps there is more to this religion deal than we think.
    That is one case in history and I don't see that happening anywhere anymore?

    How many examples are there right now of the religious forcing it on their people at the state level? The middle east is rife with these terrible abuses. History is absolutely littered with the religious oppressing others.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When atheists are critical of religion it is usually Christianity. They are largely silent on Islam and Hinduism, among scores of others.. That tends to make them one-dimensional.
    I hear they steal the children of Christians and sacrifice them to science.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When atheists are critical of religion it is usually Christianity. They are largely silent on Islam and Hinduism, among scores of others.. That tends to make them one-dimensional.
    Pfffft, I dislike all religions based on how bad their followers abuse it. Islam seems to be far worse that Christianity from a general perspective.

    Of course there are plenty of good people of every religion but... I'm an equal opportunity hater as well.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    That is one case in history and I don't see that happening anywhere anymore?

    How many examples are there right now of the religious forcing it on their people at the state level? The middle east is rife with these terrible abuses. History is absolutely littered with the religious oppressing others.
    I agree absolutely. It is not just the Middle East with Islam it is also and Asia and Africa. Christianity once had the same power but it has maintained its strength since then through means other than the law and brute force.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Pfffft, I dislike all religions based on how bad their followers abuse it. Islam seems to be far worse that Christianity from a general perspective.

    Of course there are plenty of good people of every religion but... I'm an equal opportunity hater as well.
    Yes, everyone should be treated with the same amount of cordial disrespect.

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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When atheists are critical of religion it is usually Christianity. They are largely silent on Islam and Hinduism, among scores of others.. That tends to make them one-dimensional.
    You have never read a single book by any of the New Atheists then. Whether its Hitchens, Sam Harris, or Dawkins, nothing draws their ire like Islam, followed by fundamentalist Christianity and Orthodox Judaism. Sam Harris is not a fan of moderate Muslims and Christians, but only because he believes they enable the radical elements in their faith.

    As to the topic of the thread, if its a memorial I see no problem having the cross up. The ten commandments in a court room is another thing entirely though as its a clear endorsement of specific religious beliefs.
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    Re: U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You have never read a single book by any of the New Atheists then. Whether its Hitchens, Sam Harris, or Dawkins, nothing draws their ire like Islam, followed by fundamentalist Christianity and Orthodox Judaism. Sam Harris is not a fan of moderate Muslims and Christians, but only because he believes they enable the radical elements in their faith.
    Oh yes, I have read Hitchens and even Bill Maher is speaking out as well. But the MSM remains rather silent and in fact fearful of what might happen if there is criticism of Islam. And of course Jews have been getting it for centuries, though often as a people and not necessarily because of their religion..

    But it tends towards Christianity than anywhere else, it seems to me, and becomes more evident at this time of year. Little is mention of God during Ramadan or Hanukkah.

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