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Records: Jane Fonda's charity foundation hasn't made donation in 5 years

Hatuey said:
Ah, so you were around in the same way 30 million other citizens of Vietnam were. You didn't actually engage in combat, you were just there. Is that enough to call you a Vietnam veteran? I mean, I usually think of Vietnam veterans as the guys loading up M16s and going into the proverbial "****". Did you go into "the ****"? Or were you just standing around and now get to piggy back the guys who actually fought? Can you tell us what you actually did in the military again and why a certain veteran of this forum has called you out on your claims of being a "Vietnam vet"?



When the facts go against you, fight the facts. Now, focus, did you see me mention Fonda sitting on a gun?
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Same old Hatuey........This thread is not about me.........Nice try though......:lamo

Oh and as usual you did not answer my question....I was on a ship for 2 tours in he south china sea and 13 months in Cam Ranh Bay where I worked 6 and a half days a week.......And you served where?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Same old Hatuey........This thread is not about me.........Nice try though......:lamo
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All that showboating about being a Vietnam vet and still can't tell us how an SK got "top secret" clearance or just what you did to get the veteran status. Shame. I was just about ready to drag up a few of your old posts about how you were a Store Keeper and somehow got "top secret" clearance. Keep it real, Vietnam veteran.
 
lol who cares? It's been 30 years since she was even halfway relevant.
 
Hatuey said:
Ah, so you were around in the same way 30 million other citizens of Vietnam were. You didn't actually engage in combat, you were just there. Is that enough to call you a Vietnam veteran? I mean, I usually think of Vietnam veterans as the guys loading up M16s and going into the proverbial "****". Did you go into "the ****"? Or were you just standing around and now get to piggy back the guys who actually fought? Can you tell us what you actually did in the military again and why a certain veteran of this forum has called you out on your claims of being a "Vietnam vet"?




When the facts go against you, fight the facts. Now, focus, did you see me mention Fonda sitting on a gun?
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well one can only assume....You love to defend her.
 
Hatuey said:
Navy, did you actually do any fighting in Vietnam?
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It doesn't matter if someone actually pulled the trigger, was a POG, was "in-country", in theater, or was in the CONUS and was never deployed.
It doesn't matter if you served during war time or peace time.

One has no say so while serving his country in uniform what his MOS or rating will be and where he will serve his tour of duty. All that matters that you either volunteered and enlisted or you were drafted and volunteered to show up.

The many leftist in America like Hanoi Jane were never against the war in Vietnam but were against the United States winning the war in Vietnam.


The real question should be Hatuey, have you ever served or not and which side were you on during the Vietnam War ?
 
Navy Pride said:
well one can only assume....You love to defend her.
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Hey, assume all you want. I informed the Boudreaux (who is quite a good poster) that the image he posted is fake. He actually did the research and agreed with me. The other photo? Didn't even touch it. Wonder why? Anyways. I'm glad to see you haven't keeled over and died yet. Must have been all of that in country fighting you did. Toughed up them bones. Or probably soft and comfortable living inside a ship's store. Who knows. Right?
 
APACHERAT said:
It doesn't matter if someone actually pulled the trigger, was a POG, was "in-country", in theater, or was in the CONUS and was never deployed.
It doesn't matter if you served during war time or peace time.

One has no say so while serving his country in uniform what his MOS or rating will be and where he will serve his tour of duty. All that matters that you either volunteered and enlisted or you were drafted and volunteered to show up.

The many leftist in America like Hanoi Jane were never against the war in Vietnam but were against the United States winning the war in Vietnam.

The real question should be Hatuey, have you ever served or not and which side were you on during the Vietnam War ?
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Wasn't alive in the 60s. Don't pretend to be a veteran "who ran things" either. ;) Can't say the same for NP. He's been caught flat out fabricating his service by members of the military in this forum. :shrug: Defend pretenders all you want though. Goes well with the narrative your persona has created in this forum.
 
Hatuey said:
All that showboating about being a Vietnam vet and still can't tell us how an SK got "top secret" clearance or just what you did to get the veteran status. Shame. I was just about ready to drag up a few of your old posts about how you were a Store Keeper and somehow got "top secret" clearance. Keep it real, Vietnam veteran.
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Hatuey, do you know how many levels of security clearances there are ?
 
Hatuey said:
Wasn't alive in the 60s. Don't pretend to be a veteran "who ran things" either. ;) Can't say the same for NP. He's been caught flat out fabricating his service by members of the military in this forum. :shrug:
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That is a bold face lie.........Damn your so predictable.......get some new talking points.
 
Navy Pride said:
How these lefties can defend this traitor boggles the mind.
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Regardless of political ideology, every American should know she crossed the line. There is a big difference between protesting the war and giving aid and abetting the enemy when fellow Americans are dying on the battle field. I have no problem with their movement or protests back in the states, but going to the enemies capital and playing footsie with them and then have your picture taken on the anti aircraft gun while adoring them is way too much. Better she stayed there with the ones she loved and helped.
 
Perotista said:
Regardless of political ideology, every American should know she crossed the line. There is a big difference between protesting the war and giving aid and abetting the enemy when fellow Americans are dying on the battle field. I have no problem with their movement or protests back in the states, but going to the enemies capital and playing footsie with them and then have your picture taken on the anti aircraft gun while adoring them is way too much. Better she stayed there with the ones she loved and helped.
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You are so right and as I said before how anyone can defend this traitor is beyond me but there is always one in every crowd.
 
Navy Pride said:
That is a bold face lie.........Damn your so predictable.......get some new talking points.
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Wanna bet? Dare me to drag out your claims about having "Top Secret" clearance? Or the fact you claimed to run a ship? Or the fact you never came back to even defend your claims when they got picked apart by people who've been in the military? Navy, it's a well known fact that in your 7 years on this forum, you've been picked apart on your service claims by members like Caine, UtahBill etc. Now, I'm sure you were "in country" in the same way I've been "in country" while Mexico is in a cartel war. Now, have I seen the cartel war? Nope. I've been here though. Is that enough to grant me "conflict survivor" status? Nope. :shrug:

Now, you keep on telling people how outraged you are about Jane Fonda. I'm more outraged by your blatant swift boating and grandstanding of your service as a reason your opinion is "right". No better than former military members who walk around pretending to be medal of honor winners. You're a charlatan riding on the coat tails of 58,000 people who didn't sit in a store all day handling people's laundry. Now, I'm sure that in your head, means your get to play soldier to everyone here but hey, it doesn't to me. SK.
 
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Hatuey said:
Hey, assume all you want. I informed the Boudreaux (who is quite a good poster) that the image he posted is fake. He actually did the research and agreed with me. The other photo? Didn't even touch it. Wonder why? Anyways. I'm glad to see you haven't keeled over and died yet. Must have been all of that in country fighting you did. Toughed up them bones. Or probably soft and comfortable living inside a ship's store. Who knows. Right?
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What's your problem with the ships store ?

I wasn't in the Navy and as a Marine never a member of the ships company. But during my tour of duty I was aboard five different U.S. Navy ships. More than most sailors have ever served on. And the first thing I learned was where the galley was, where the ships store was and where the life jackets were stored.
 
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Gipper said:
You don't report 0 income.

Besides, Fonda donates plenty - she donates hearty laughter for anyone to the right of Pelosi.
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Yes, she donates her venom to the Serpentarium.
 
APACHERAT said:
What's your probl;em with the ships store.

I wasn't in the Navy and as a Marine never a member of the ships company. But during my tour of duty I was aboard five different U.S. Navy ships. More than most sailors have ever served on. And the first thing I learned was where the galley was, where the ships store was and where the life jackets were stored.
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My problem with Navy's constant trotting of his "Vietnam Vet" status is simple. He uses it as a yard stick to beat anyone who disagrees with him on matters. He's supposedly an SK who got Top Secret Clearance and ran the ship (his words). Those claims went well and fine for a few years until another member of the navy actually called him out on some of it. You ever seen a dog become afraid of a bigger & meaner dog? Yep. That happened only on this forum. Guess who wasn't the bigger & meaner dog?
 
Navy Pride said:
You are so right and as I said before how anyone can defend this traitor is beyond me but there is always one in every crowd.
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Yeah, They're probably mostly young who learned what they know from the history books written by those who had college deferments and were anti-war. The kind when you try to explain it to them in the context of the time, refuse to listen. One has to understand everything happening during that time and the mind set of the leaders of the world, the cold war, the fears of the times whether accurate of not. So usually I leave Vietnam alone. I did what I did and did what I could. That is enough for me.
 
Where is the IRS? The charity was suppose to give away at least 5% of its asset value or be operating outside the law! I guess the IRS was focused on "other" things!
 
You'll remember that college deferments ended for the 1972 year, my year, coincidentally an election year..
So many of my friends went scampering for National Guards, many using "strings" in other states, for the 1972 year..
I was 1-Holding for seven years after going through AFEES in Chicago..
Even with a low number, I never doubted that the draft was over .
Perotista said:
Yeah, They're probably mostly young who learned what they know from the history books written by those who had college deferments and were anti-war. The kind when you try to explain it to them in the context of the time, refuse to listen. One has to understand everything happening during that time and the mind set of the leaders of the world, the cold war, the fears of the times whether accurate of not. So usually I leave Vietnam alone. I did what I did and did what I could. That is enough for me.
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Hatuey said:
My problem with Navy's constant trotting of his "Vietnam Vet" status is simple. He uses it as a yard stick to beat anyone who disagrees with him on matters. He's supposedly an SK who got Top Secret Clearance and ran the ship (his words). Those claims went well and fine for a few years until another member of the navy actually called him out on some of it. You ever seen a dog become afraid of a bigger & meaner dog? Yep. That happened only on this forum. Guess who wasn't the bigger & meaner dog?
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Getting a Top Secret clearance is actually given quite frequently in the military. I had one but never thought I had that big of a wealth of inside information that presented a potential danger.

Am always leery of those who wear their Vietnam Vet label on their sleeve. The ones who generally talk about it the most were probably the ones to be far from the frontline. I am a Vietnam Era vet but not a Vietnam Vet. There are thousands like me who did a commendable job but I was far from dodging bullets. I have friends who have physical scars from Vietnam and that is all they wear on them that suggest they are vets.
 
CalGun said:
Where is the IRS? The charity was suppose to give away at least 5% of its asset value or be operating outside the law! I guess the IRS was focused on "other" things!
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I wonder who the Obama's administration IRS has been focusing on. :thinking
 
Crosscheck said:
Getting a Top Secret clearance is actually given quite frequently in the military. I had one but never thought I had that big of a wealth of inside information that presented a potential danger.

Am always leery of those who wear their Vietnam Vet label on their sleeve. The ones who generally talk about it the most were probably the ones to be far from the frontline. I am a Vietnam Era vet but not a Vietnam Vet. There are thousands like me who did a commendable job but I was far from dodging bullets. I have friends who have physical scars from Vietnam and that is all they wear on them that suggest they are vets.
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Thank you for your service. I wouldn't ever have known you were in the military if you hadn't mentioned it. Your humility is all I need to validate your claims.
 
Having a top secret clearance isn't a huge deal. Running a ship, however, is. Depends on the context, though. Maybe he was just the coolest e-4 around, and that's what he meant lol
 
NIMBY said:
You'll remember that college deferments ended for the 1972 year, my year, coincidentally an election year..
So many of my friends went scampering for National Guards, many using "strings" in other states, for the 1972 year..
I was 1-Holding for seven years after going through AFEES in Chicago..
Even with a low number, I never doubted that the draft was over .
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I was drafted in 1966, but it worked out for the best for me. A 20 year career followed up with another 26 working for the army as a civilian. I had mixed emotions on the ending of the draft and still do. But in the end i guess, what was, was. What is, is and what will be, will be.
 
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