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Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

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Hatuey said:
Take the hit? Are you just looking up bad jail movies? Taking a hit implies I have no fault on the matter. In your hypothetical situation however, an accident caused by a drunk driver places the guilt/blame SQUARELY on the driver who was drunk.
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What white bread neighborhood did you grow up in?
 
apdst said:
Ever had a vanilla malt at Sonic and driven down the road? You were over the kegal minimum, if you did. What if you had killed someone? Think you would want to do some hard time?
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Can I ask what the kegal minimum is? That definitely threw me for a loop. Is it a narcotic? Some state altering substance? What effect does it have on your nervous system?
 
apdst said:
What white bread neighborhood did you grow up in?
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1. Taking the hit
When one brave man sacrifices himself for the greater good of the team.
 
Muhammed said:
That doesn't prove jack. Anyone can choose the wrong answers on an IQ test. That argument assumes that the perp was not being disingenuous in an attempt to save his ass. It's getting the correct answers that matters on an IQ test. Getting them wrong doesn't prove jack ****.



In the Wilson case the kidnapper/robber made a conscious choice to murder someone.

And in the Ethan Couch case an inexperienced 16 year old driver caused an unfortunate auto accident. Unlike the other case no motive was presented. Just another auto accident.

For anti-white racists to compare the two cases is ridiculous. That is a really ****ing desperate attempt at race baiting.
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No, this was not an unfortunate auto accident. The kid made a decision to drive drunk, thus endangering other drivers, and killing 4, while maiming 11 others.
 
Hatuey said:
Can I ask what the kegal minimum is? That definitely threw me for a loop. Is it a narcotic? Some state altering substance? What effect does it have on your nervous system?
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It's a pelvic floor exercise. :mrgreen:
 
Hatuey said:
1. Taking the hit
When one brave man sacrifices himself for the greater good of the team.
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Like I said...lol!

Of course you don't want to discuss the topic. You would rather pick on my typos and debate slang, because let's face it, there ain't a mother****er here that wouldn't jump all over this sentence if it was YOU, or YOUR kid. Sure as **** wouldn't see anything wrong with the sentence in THAT scenario!
 
apdst said:
Like I said...lol!

Of course you don't want to discuss the topic. You would rather pick on my typos and debate slang,
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1) It's not a typo or slang problem when you're using it wrong.
2) You're making the thread about you by focusing on the fact that a correction was made. You simply do not understand what the term means or implies.
3) No, I wouldn't jump all over it if I had killed 4 people while drinking and driving and I sure as **** would ask for a tougher sentence if it was my kid. Then again, I'm a person with values that aren't made up for the sake of "being right" on a forum.
 
danarhea said:
No, this was not an unfortunate auto accident. The kid made a decision to drive drunk, thus endangering other drivers, and killing 4, while maiming 11 others.
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I've known 2 people whose kids took their vehicles and killed someone while DUI. These were people at the bottom of the middle class. They had decent jobs and some assets. They lost everything they couldn't hide. In both cases, they received very short sentences and years of probation. Destroying your parents and having to live with them is part of the punishment.

But I suppose my point was that while this seems awful, it isn't rare. Also, now we have the name of a really good lawyer.
 
apdst said:
Like I said...lol!

Of course you don't want to discuss the topic. You would rather pick on my typos and debate slang, because let's face it, there ain't a mother****er here that wouldn't jump all over this sentence if it was YOU, or YOUR kid. Sure as **** wouldn't see anything wrong with the sentence in THAT scenario!
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I disagree. You attempt to obfuscate the subject by making a ridiculous claim that a vanilla malt from Sonic will impair you the same way alcohol does. I am still laughing over that post. LOL.
 
danarhea said:
I disagree. You attempt to obfuscate the subject by making a ridiculous claim that a vanilla malt from Sonic will impair you the same way alcohol does. I am still laughing over that post. LOL.
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A vanilla malt will put you over the legal limit.
 
apdst said:
A vanilla malt will put you over the legal limit.
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LMAO. That's the funniest BS I've heard in years. I supposed I'd better report Sonic to TABC for selling vanilla malts without a liquor license.... And to children too!! Oh the humanity!!....

On the other hand, I don't want the men in white coats coming to pick me up, so why don't YOU report them instead. LOL.
 
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danarhea said:
LMAO. That's the funniest BS I've heard in years. I supposed I'd better report Sonic to TABC for selling vanilla malts.... On the other hand, I don't want the men in white coats coming to pick me up. LOL.
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Is this dude trying to tell us malt is alcoholic? Is he for real?
 
Hatuey said:
Is this dude trying to tell us malt is alcoholic? Is he for real?
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Have you ever heard of vanilla extract? I'm thinking you haven't.
 
Hatuey said:
Is this dude trying to tell us malt is alcoholic? Is he for real?
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Shhhhh!! Let him keep talking. This is pretty damned entertaining. Hehe.
 
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apdst said:
Have you ever heard of vanilla extract? I'm thinking you haven't.
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You know, I happen to have a breathalyzer. I keep it in my car, and if it tells me I am over .03, I simply do not drive until my BAC is under .03. Being a musician, I play at places where people sometimes buy me drinks, so for me, this is a good piece of equipment to have on hand.

Tommorow, I am going to conduct an experiment. I am going to order a vanilla malt from Sonic, then after drinking it, I will test my BAC, then post the results of my breathalyzer test in a special thread. I promise not to make fun of you..... NOT!! :mrgreen:
 
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danarhea said:
No, this was not an unfortunate auto accident. The kid made a decision to drive drunk, thus endangering other drivers, and killing 4, while maiming 11 others.
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Bull****. There is no evidence whatsoever presented that he was drunk.

Are you one of those prohibitionists or something? Is that your shtick?
 
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Excon said:
What the heck is with folks here?
As it was an accident caused by reckless behavior while in a drunken state, his sentence as a juvenile, was more than just.
A twenty year sentence and he would have been freed in two years after reaching adulthood. But apparently that is what folks want. A sentence that isn't just.

And ten years of probation is nothing to sneeze at either.
10 years under the oppressive arm of the Government.
He is basically being given a 10 year sentence rather than the two year sentence that a twenty would have brought.


Spare us the bull****.
It doesn't show any such thing, and the two cases are not even close to being the same.
Especially as one was an accident, and the other the direct and deliberate murder.


Bs. You can show no such thing.

Which makes your "which is why this guy should have" to, absurd.



:doh
No, money does not buy justice these days.
Money enables a person to afford an appropriate defense.
A defense, as with most products, the better it is, the more it costs.


Secondly, if the kid can get better treatment in such a facility why should it not be allowed? It isn't on the State's dime.
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SAME JUDGE SENTENCES BLACK BOY TO 10 YEARS FOR A KNOCKOUT GAME GONE WRONG.

Oops. Comparable stupidity and vastly different outcomes.

Texas teen sentenced to 10 years for deadly punch | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
 
Muhammed said:
Bull****. There is no evidence whatsoever presented that he was drunk.

Are you one of those prohibitionists or something?
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His BAC was .24, which is 3 times the legal limit. Did you even read the link before you started making stuff up?
 
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apdst said:
Have you ever heard of vanilla extract? I'm thinking you haven't.
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:rofl

Holy ****, everyone who drives after eating a Christmas cookie is, according to apdst, legally drunk!!! Think of the children!!! :lamo :lamo :lamo

OMFG, I'm laughing so hard my eyes are watering!!
 
apdst said:
Have you ever heard of vanilla extract? I'm thinking you haven't.
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Wait.... are you telling us vanilla extract is what is used in Sonic's vanilla shake? Are you kidding me? Do you realize that would make Sonic's Vanilla shake 70 proof? Do you not know what "Natural Vanilla Flavor" is? It's not actually made out of vanilla extract.
 
danarhea said:
His BAC was .24, which is 3 times the legal limit.
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Anyone who knows anything about human biology knows that BAC tests cannot prove that someone is drunk.

"Drunk" is a very loaded and subjective term. "Legal limit" does not = "drunk". How many here are intelligent enough to understand that fact?

And even that is besides the point.

Your racism is evident.
 
Muhammed said:
Bull****. There is no evidence whatsoever presented that he was drunk.

Are you one of those prohibitionists or something? Is that your shtick?
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If the kid blew a .24 he was wasted.

I used to do this stuff for a living and if you blow a .24 you are significantly impaired. While the outward signs of a .24 are different for different people I can guarantee that your judgement will be off significantly, your responsiveness to various stimuli will be way off and your vision will be substantially impaired. With hundreds of DUI busts I can say for certain that NOBODY who blows a .24 could pass for sober.

I have no idea why the judge thought probation was a reasonable sentence. It's one of those sentences that rightfully makes sane people sit back and say "Really? How can any reasonable person consider this sentence to be 'justice' much less rehabilitative?"
 
Muhammed said:
Anyone who knows anything about human biology knows that BAC tests cannot prove that someone is drunk.

"Drunk" is a very loaded and subjective term. "Legal limit" does not = "drunk". How many here are intelligent enough to understand that fact?

And even that is besides the point.
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I had a DWI in 1985. My BAC was .13, and I was definitely impaired, and could not pass the field sobriety tests. I deserved the jail time I got.

But, that is beside the point. The legal limit that triggers a "pro se" DWI arrest is .08. He was 3 times that. He had absolutely no business behind the wheel. He committed manslaugther.
 
Lutherf said:
If the kid blew a .24 he was wasted.

I used to do this stuff for a living and if you blow a .24 you are significantly impaired. While the outward signs of a .24 are different for different people I can guarantee that your judgement will be off significantly, your responsiveness to various stimuli will be way off and your vision will be substantially impaired. With hundreds of DUI busts I can say for certain that NOBODY who blows a .24 could pass for sober.

I have no idea why the judge thought probation was a reasonable sentence. It's one of those sentences that rightfully makes sane people sit back and say "Really? How can any reasonable person consider this sentence to be 'justice' much less rehabilitative?"
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Breathalyzers are based on junk science. Kinda like "lie detectors" and "e-meters".

And so what if he was drunk? That does not prove that he intended to get in a wreck and kill anyone.
 
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