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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Never said any differently. Just that it's immoral for a lawyer to take a dive if they think think their client is guilty.
    Absolutely. It's a defense attorney's job to ignore guilt or innocence. However, a prosecutor must consider the fact that a defendant can be innocent and has to hand over exculpating evidence when he/she gets a hold of it.

    A defense attorney can (actually has to by law) bury evidence which hangs his client, but he/she cannot put a witness on the stand knowing they will commit perjury. This can make it difficult because a client who has confessed guilt to his lawyer cannot then testify that he is innocent. Worse, if the lawyer has evidence contradicting the testimony of his client, he is in trouble and runs a risk of being disbarred.

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Absolutely. It's a defense attorney's job to ignore guilt or innocence. However, a prosecutor must consider the fact that a defendant can be innocent and has to hand over exculpating evidence when he/she gets a hold of it.

    A defense attorney can bury evidence which hangs his client, but he/she cannot put a witness on the stand knowing they will commit perjury. This can make it difficult because a client who has confessed guilt to his lawyer cannot then testify that he is innocent.
    I haven't said anything different. The Defense must present the best case it can, the Prosecution the same. We have judges and juries to decide the winner.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You clearly know nothing about criminal law...
    Apparently that would be you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The judge ignored the the agreed deal (obviously) and instituted his/her own (and judges can do that).

    You clearly know not of what you speak.

    So again.
    Three days of testimony happened after that to determine what sentence he would be given.
    You are suggesting a plea agreement, which is not what has been reported.

    You are just making unsupported assertions.
    You should really stop, as you are just showing that you know not of what you speak.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Also, the prosecution is going after him again -
    Yeah, an unscrupulous Prosecutor.

    Most likely to no avail though.


    Kimberly Priest Johnson, a criminal defense attorney in Dallas, said she is doubtful that Boyd will give in to such a request. She said courts are not supposed to make decisions based on outside influences such as public scrutiny.

    “I would be surprised if a judge gave jail time,” Johnson said. “After she’s already given probation for the manslaughter charge, then to turn around and give jail time for the assault charge? That doesn’t make sense.”

    “… I’m sure she stands behind the sentence she gave and has her reasons for it,” she added.

    If Boyd did decide to incarcerate Couch, Johnson said she believes that defense attorneys could appeal the decision based on double jeopardy.

    “Typically, you are sentenced on the primary offense or the offense that carries the heaviest penalty,” she said. “If they’re all arising out of the same facts and circumstances, double jeopardy still attaches once you’ve been sentenced for the primary offense.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The best part is that when he's charged with different offenses relating to the crime his OJ Simpson-ish legal team will concoct a completely different defense...

    This kid is going to prison...
    The best part is you talking this nonsense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I told you one time that statutes were similar across the board...

    If you have a difference/statute I would love to see it..
    iLOL A different statute? iLOL
    Hell you haven't even provided one to begin with.

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    This isn't Illinois is it?
    Which also means your personal experience matters not.

    And if you knew of what you speak, then you would know what I said was true.
    So you are just showing you don't.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think it's insane, I think it's a cornerstone of the Republic. Everyone deserves competent defense, even the guilty. It's only right and just to provide the best defense for all accused.
    Any defense attorney with half a brain wouldn't argue for the innocence of someone who is obviously guilty. It's far better to work out a plea deal for a lesser punishment and/or parole than to fight a lost cause.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ever had a vanilla malt at Sonic and driven down the road? You were over the kegal minimum, if you did. What if you had killed someone? Think you would want to do some hard time?
    Sorry to necro this thread, but 3 years after it was started, I just got a like on one of my posts. It was in response to THIS post.

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Sorry to necro this thread, but 3 years after it was started, I just got a like on one of my posts. It was in response to THIS post.

    Sorry, I just can't help it. 3 years later I am still laughing my ass off.
    It isn't nearly as funny as when you said that Reid was the speaker in 2014.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It isn't nearly as funny as when you said that Reid was the speaker in 2014.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Due to popular request, I am once again necroing this thread.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ever had a vanilla malt at Sonic and driven down the road? You were over the kegal minimum, if you did. What if you had killed someone? Think you would want to do some hard time?

    This
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Do you know what tje legal limit is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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