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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh, I know of what I speak and I know criminal law (at least criminal law in Illinois) quite well.
    This isn't Illinois is it?
    Which also means your personal experience matters not.

    And if you knew of what you speak, then you would know what I said was true.
    So you are just showing you don't.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    IMO, if I was a judge I would have thrown that nonsense defense out citing ignorance of the law is no excuse...

    I would love to know what the original plea agreement (agreed sentence) was - it certainly wasn't 10 years probation.

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    still playing dodge-ball..
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This isn't Illinois is it?
    Which also means your personal experience matters not.

    And if you knew of what you speak, then you would know what I said was true.
    So you are just showing you don't.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    IMO, if I was a judge I would have thrown that nonsense defense out citing ignorance of the law is no excuse...

    iLOL
    It was not a defense.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    still playing dodge-ball..
    More nonsense from you.
    Figures.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This isn't Illinois is it?
    Which also means your personal experience matters not.

    And if you knew of what you speak, then you would know what I said was true.
    So you are just showing you don't.
    It doesn't matter considering most states criminal codes and statutes are just about the same, just with subtle differences.

    No you made everything you said up...

    In capital cases (in Illinois that would be a M or a class X felony which this case is) - the juvenile serves his/her prison sentence and gets transferred to adult prison at 18. Now, if it is lesser offense, they usually just hold him/her until they're 21.

    Juvenile cases are a gray area, however if you're sentenced to 20 years in Illinois as a juvenile (or any state) you're doing between 9 1/2 years or 16 (some states have day for day credit while others make you do 85% of your time with the rest on parole)..

    So you seriously want to argue with me on this?

    They don't release kids when they're 18 if their sentence exceeds them turning 18.

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    iLOL
    It was not a defense.
    Yes it absolutely was a defense...

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So you seriously want to argue with me on this?


    And again, We are not speaking of Illinois.

    Even his attorney knows of what I speak.

    Scott Brown, the boy's lead defense attorney, said he could have been freed after two years if he had drawn the 20-year sentence. Instead, the judge "fashioned a sentence that could have him under the thumb of the justice system for the next 10 years," he told the Star-Telegram.
    'Affluenza' Defense Draws Criticism In Ethan Couch Sentence For Fatal DWI Wreck
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yes it absolutely was a defense...

    No it wasn't.
    It was during sentencing. That is not defense.
    It wasn't even presented as mitigation.
    It was presented to suggest he needed rehabilitation instead of prison.
    That is not in defense of the act he committed.
    So stop with your absurdities.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't think a poor person would have the financial means to hire an attorney, then pay a "doctor" (I mean quack) to make and reaffirm such a loony defense.

    It's amazing the defense worked and I'm shocked the judge didn't see the irony in his ruling.

    This is why the kid should have been charged with 2 or 3 counts of murder, that way if you don't get the sentence you want - you charge him with murder again in a separate case.

    Generally I think our judicial system is just screwed up and people are usually persecuted er prosecuted unfairly, however this case is just astounding considering the kid admitted guilt...

    I don't understand how a judge could buy any of the defenses nonsense.
    I just think it needs to be consistent. Money shouldn't play a role, even though it so obviously did to anyone honest enough to admit it.
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