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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not nonsensical. DWI resulting in fatality is severely punished these days, people get 20+ years even though it is an accident. This case 4 people were killed, had the kid not been from a rich family he wouldn't have just gotten probation. Duh.
    Yes your reply is nonsensical as this was a Juvenile Court, where the judge is on the record as willing to give out the same type of sentence for a more heinous act murder.
    Which had nothing to do with wealth.

    And as it is a Juvenile Court, where rehab is the concern and not punishment, a twenty year sentence would have only resulted in an actual two year sentence (when he turned 18).
    They way it works out, he is under the thumb of the Government for ten years.
    That is a horrible and quite oppressive sentence. Far worse than the two years if he had been given a twenty.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes your reply is nonsensical as this was a Juvenile Court, where the judge is on the record as willing to give out the same type of sentence for a more heinous act murder.
    Which had nothing to do with wealth.

    And as it is a Juvenile Court, where rehab is the concern and not punishment, a twenty year sentence would have only resulted in an actual two year sentence (when he turned 18).
    They way it works out, he is under the thumb of the Government for ten years.
    That is a horrible and quite oppressive sentence. Far worse than the two years if he had been given a twenty.
    A poor person wouldn't have ended in Juvenile Court for this. A poor person wouldn't face just 2 years. We crucify DUI killers these days, beyond reason and limit. Richers get to go on, poor folk go to jail. That's the lesson of our society.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A poor person wouldn't have ended in Juvenile Court for this. A poor person wouldn't face just 2 years. We crucify DUI killers these days, beyond reason and limit. Richers get to go on, poor folk go to jail. That's the lesson of our society.
    Wrong.
    That is why the 14 year old ended up in that Court for Murder right?
    Spare us. You clearly do not know of what you speak.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Did not read the whole thread to see if any of the Complaints were listed, so here is one of several pending;

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A poor person wouldn't have ended in Juvenile Court for this. A poor person wouldn't face just 2 years. We crucify DUI killers these days, beyond reason and limit. Richers get to go on, poor folk go to jail. That's the lesson of our society.
    I don't think a poor person would have the financial means to hire an attorney, then pay a "doctor" (I mean quack) to make and reaffirm such a loony defense.

    It's amazing the defense worked and I'm shocked the judge didn't see the irony in his ruling.

    This is why the kid should have been charged with 2 or 3 counts of murder, that way if you don't get the sentence you want - you charge him with murder again in a separate case.

    Generally I think our judicial system is just screwed up and people are usually persecuted er prosecuted unfairly, however this case is just astounding considering the kid admitted guilt...

    I don't understand how a judge could buy any of the defenses nonsense.

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes your reply is nonsensical as this was a Juvenile Court, where the judge is on the record as willing to give out the same type of sentence for a more heinous act murder.
    Which had nothing to do with wealth.

    And as it is a Juvenile Court, where rehab is the concern and not punishment, a twenty year sentence would have only resulted in an actual two year sentence (when he turned 18).
    They way it works out, he is under the thumb of the Government for ten years.
    That is a horrible and quite oppressive sentence. Far worse than the two years if he had been given a twenty.
    None of that is true...

    I don't even know where to begin with everything you just made up.

    You do realize in most states they can hold juveniles until they're 21 if their sentence meets or exceeds that age. Usually in capitol cases juveniles have to serve their sentence, and when they're 18 they're transferred to an adult prison to serve it out.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    You and I don't agree very often Mr. Nick..
    But when we do, I'm thinking dos Aquis .
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't think a poor person would have the financial means to hire an attorney, then pay a "doctor" (I mean quack) to make and reaffirm such a loony defense.

    It's amazing the defense worked and I'm shocked the judge didn't see the irony in his ruling.

    This is why the kid should have been charged with 2 or 3 counts of murder, that way if you don't get the sentence you want - you charge him with murder again in a separate case.

    Generally I think our judicial system is just screwed up and people are usually persecuted er prosecuted unfairly, however this case is just astounding considering the kid admitted guilt...

    I don't understand how a judge could buy any of the defenses nonsense.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    None of that is true...

    I don't even know where to begin with everything you just made up.
    You clearly know not of what you speak.
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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You clearly know not of what you speak.
    Oh, I know of what I speak and I know criminal law (at least criminal law in Illinois) quite well.

    I've done prison time myself (wrongly convicted)....

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    Re: Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's amazing the defense worked and I'm shocked the judge didn't see the irony in his ruling.
    Defense?
    It wasn't an argument of defense.
    It was during sentencing.

    Nor can you show that the Judge even considered the argument, or that iot had any influence on the sentence.

    The fact that the Judge was more than willing to sentence a non-affluent murderer to the same type of sentence says it wasn't even a consideration.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    This is why the kid should have been charged with 2 or 3 counts of murder,

    Nope. Not the way the system works. It was manslaughter as there was no specific intent to cause harm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't understand how a judge could buy any of the defenses nonsense.
    You can't show she bought any such thing.
    Last edited by Excon; 12-18-13 at 01:20 PM.
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