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Teen Sentenced To Probation For Deadly DWI Crash

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DiAnna said:
The kid's blood alcohol was 2.4. It wasn't an "accident"; it was vehicular homicide.

He got drunk, slaughtered a bunch of pedestrians, maimed a bunch of other folks, and basically walked away, scot-free. But he was rich and white, so it's all good. :roll:
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that race played a role here but I'd definitely say political influence did. If this kid were some white trash trailer park dweller, this judge wouldn't have thought twice about sending him to the slammer for a few years.
 
Hatuey said:
Do people at 16 not know that you shouldn't drink and drive? I don't understand what played a role in this kid not getting any kind of real punishment. Is it the fact he didn't know he shouldn't drink and drive? Can adults use that as an excuse? Okay, it was an accident. Can adults who say it was an accident and kill 4 people get away by claiming ignorance of the law?
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Have you ever driven under the influence? Be honest!
 
Hatuey said:
I wouldn't go as far as saying that race played a role here but I'd definitely say political influence did. If this kid were some white trash trailer park dweller, this judge wouldn't have thought twice about sending him to the slammer for a few years.
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Maybe you're right, but over the decades I've become pretty damned jaded about the part that money, power and race plays when it comes to our "justice" system. :(
 
DiAnna said:
The kid's blood alcohol was 2.4. It wasn't an "accident"; it was vehicular homicide.

He got drunk, slaughtered a bunch of pedestrians, maimed a bunch of other folks, and basically walked away, scot-free. But he was rich and white, so it's all good. :roll:
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A whole deck of race cards ready for playin'...eh?
 
apdst said:
Have you ever driven under the influence? Be honest!
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Is that what this is all about?? "Hey, everyone drinks and drives..." *wink, wink* "...so there are bound to be a few 'oopsies' along the way. Everyone does it, so if someone gets hurt once in a while, well, **** happens!"
 
DiAnna said:
Is that what this is all about?? "Hey, everyone drinks and drives..." *wink, wink* "...so there are bound to be a few 'oopsies' along the way. Everyone does it, so if someone gets hurt once in a while, well, **** happens!"
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Have you? Again, be honest!
 
apdst said:
A whole deck of race cards ready for playin'...eh?
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Naw. I tried to buy a deck of race cards, but the clerk told me you'd just been there and bought the place out.
 
apdst said:
Have you ever driven under the influence? Be honest!
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I drive "under influence" every time I take cold medication and drive. That's not the problem though. The problem here is that this kid was WAY past the drinking and driving limit. You can have a drink and drive. You can have an aspirin and drive. You can have a smoke and drive. All of those are drugs (nicotine, ibuprofen, cafeine) that put you under some sort of influence. However, that's not what is in question here. What is in question here is why a kid who was clearly past the legal drinking & driving limit was operating a vehicle? He shouldn't have been. There simply isn't an excuse for it.
 
DiAnna said:
Naw. I tried to buy a deck of race cards, but the clerk told me you'd just been there and bought the place out.
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I'm not the one bitching about the white boy getting probation because, he's...um...white!
 
apdst said:
Have you? Again, be honest!
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No, I haven't. I'm not that stupid. Apparently, however, it strikes quite a nerve with you so I'm guessing you don't have any qualms about doing so.
 
Hatuey said:
I drive "under influence" every time I take cold medication and drive. That's not the problem though. The problem here is that this kid was WAY past the drinking and driving limit. You can have a drink and drive. You can have an aspirin and drive. You can have a smoke and drive. All of those are drugs (nicotine, ibuprofen, cafeine) that put you under some sort of influence. However, that's not what is in question here. What is in question here is why a kid who was 1) clearly past the legal drinking & driving limit was operating a vehicle? He shouldn't have been.
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Are you going to give an honest answer, or keep dancing around?
 
apdst said:
I'm not the one bitching about the white boy getting probation because, he's...um...white!
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RICH and white. I realize it's a habit for you to leave out the parts that don't serve your purpose, but fear not. I'll correct you when required.
 
DiAnna said:
No, I haven't. I'm not that stupid. Apparently, however, it strikes quite a nerve with you so I'm guessing you don't have any qualms about doing so.
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You must not drink alcohol, then.
 
DiAnna said:
RICH and white. I realize it's a habit for you to leave out the parts that don't serve your purpose, but fear not. I'll correct you when required.
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Ok...you're playing the class card too.

It must be goddamn exhausting, totin' around all that white guilt!
 
apdst said:
You must not drink alcohol, then.
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Oh, but I do. I love a good Chardonnay, cream sherry, and my favorite, Southern Comfort, straight up. I just don't drive after drinking. Apparently you do. I hope the law of averages doesn't catch up with you.
 
Hatuey said:
I definitely answered your post.
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If you had gotten into an accident that caused a fatality, do you think you should do time? Or, would you hire the best lawyer you could get to get you slapped with ANY sentence that didn't involve you going to the joint?
 
apdst said:
If you had gotten into an accident that caused a fatality, do you think you should do time?
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Here is the real question apdst: If I had gotten into an accident by drinking and driving, should I do time? Of course I should. Drinking and driving are easily avoidable activities.

And oh hey! Look at that! I answered your next question a while back:

Claim ignorance of the law, and ignorance of consequences and you can get away with killing 4 people. Mistakes aren't above punishment. Ask anybody who's gone to jail for manslaughter.
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DiAnna said:
Oh, but I do. I love a good Chardonnay, cream sherry, and my favorite, Southern Comfort, straight up. I just don't drive after drinking. Apparently you do. I hope the law of averages doesn't catch up with you.
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If you drink and you claim that you've NEVER driven with a BAL that was above the legal minimum, then I think you're fibbin'.
 
apdst said:
Ok...you're playing the class card too.

It must be goddamn exhausting, totin' around all that white guilt!
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Yeah, that must be it. I'm disgusted because a kid with blood alcohol three times the legal limit killed four people, maimed 11 others, and because his lawyer said the kid was so rich and privileged that he "didn't know any better", the kid gets off scot free, while an internet tough guy who himself routinely drinks and drives deigns lecture me on guilt... you know, the same kind of guilt that same rich, white kid did not feel about any of his victims, most of whom were also white.

Eh, this is like discussing how to ride a bicycle with one's pet goldfish. I'm outta here.
 
apdst said:
If you drink and you claim that you've NEVER driven with a BAL that was above the legal minimum, then I think you're fibbin'.
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That's because you can't fathom someone who is actually responsible enough only to drink when they do not have to drive. The world is full of folks like me, and they aren't liars either.
 
apdst said:
I seriously doubt you would just take the hit and do the time.
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Take the hit? Are you just looking up bad jail movies? Taking a hit implies I have no fault on the matter. In your hypothetical situation however, an accident caused by a drunk driver places the guilt/blame SQUARELY on the driver who was drunk.
 
DiAnna said:
Yeah, that must be it. I'm disgusted because a kid with blood alcohol three times the legal limit killed four people, maimed 11 others, and because his lawyer said the kid was so rich and privileged that he "didn't know any better", the kid gets off scot free, while an internet tough guy who himself routinely drinks and drives deigns lecture me on guilt... you know, the same kind of guilt that same rich, white kid did not feel about any of his victims, most of whom were also white.

Eh, this is like discussing how to ride a bicycle with one's pet goldfish. I'm outta here.
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Ever had a vanilla malt at Sonic and driven down the road? You were over the kegal minimum, if you did. What if you had killed someone? Think you would want to do some hard time?
 
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