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Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

FederalRepublic said:
I guess you could always say it's "he said/they said", but the police reports from multiple incidents of this guy threatening low level walmart employees should be a decent indicator that Cantrell was not banned from walmart for price-matching. I would ban him from my store and/or tell my employees they could have free rein to gang up on him and beat his ass if he threatened my cashiers. I might even hire an enforcer to do just that.
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Right, he "was heard" intimidating employees ("was heard" means nothing). As for the police arresting him, is there a definitive police statement explaining the circumstances under which he was arrested? Because in many cases police will make an arrest simply because of a complaint or because he was on someone else's property. Without a detailed statement or a video all we've got a is big bathtub filled with screw-all.

I believe a company with as much iffy PR as Walmart would move to clear its name as quickly as humanly possible, yet they haven't released the footage to the press. There could be extenuating reasons for why they haven't, but my skepticism is at roughly 9 right now.
 
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Heh, speaking of PR, Cantrell has gone into full-on PR mode himself on his Facebook page. :lol: Check out the pic at the top of his home page.
 
Mason66 said:
"However, last week, Cantrell took a trip to Wal-Mart's San Tan Valley, Ariz., location, where an employee stopped him and told him he wasn’t allowed to ad match"

If after looking at their website about ad matching I might get very upset and maybe even threaten the employee to get out of my face if he said it wasn't allowed to ad match.

Who knows if it happened, but what fault does corporate have in this? It sounds like this was an ignorant employee that caused the problem and the store went overboard.

On the other hand with the climate as it is in the US, I am not sure banning the customer was not a good idea.

Where is the video tape of the interaction?
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Here's a video tape about this story:

There are other videos on this incident at YouTube.
 
shrubnose said:
Here's a video tape about this story:

There are other videos on this incident at YouTube.
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There's no footage of the incident available.
 
PW4000 said:
I typically don't ever post in this section of the forum, but this story caught my eye this morning and caused much laughter and guilt. The laughter should be obvious after a quick read, but the guilt comes from knowing that I live in a country where something like this actually takes place. The old saying: "Read it and Weep," truly applies to this funny, yet so sad story. Enjoy this story, but have a handkerchief nearby as you realize what a _ _ _ _ _ _ up country we have created for ourselves. (fill in the blanks yourselves)


Source: Wal-Mart bans man for life for matching ads- MSN Money

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If Walmart makes savings to its customers available through such advertising and PR campaigns and then calls the police merely because customers get good at playing their marketing game, then that's Walmart's problem not the customers who play the game well. Poor ole Cantrell, can no longer do what he likes to do: Beat the stores at their own game.

Here's what I propose since this is after all a politically driven forum: Americans should place a LIFETIME ban on Walmart and its immoral business practices. That way, Walmart can no longer practices its hobby of selling crappy products to American Customers! And, did you notice the embedded link from MSN to Investor Place, showing Walmart being sued for selling crappy gas cans?

The hit parade of insanity, greed, slave labor and customer-hate never seems to end with Walmart.
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WalMart does not have a history of this sort of behavior, quite the opposite in fact, but we do know that there is a war on WalMart by the Unions and this story, during the Christmas shopping season, is probably being promoted by them and their sympathizers. The final sentence of "The hit parade of insanity, greed, slave labor and customer-hate never seems to end with Walmart".

We know this is rubbish so I'm guessing that the rest of the story is as well.
 
Cardinal said:
Right, he "was heard" intimidating employees ("was heard" means nothing). As for the police arresting him, is there a definitive police statement explaining the circumstances under which he was arrested? Because in many cases police will make an arrest simply because of a complaint or because he was on someone else's property. Without a detailed statement or a video all we've got a is big bathtub filled with screw-all.

I believe a company with as much iffy PR as Walmart would move to clear its name as quickly as humanly possible, yet they haven't released the footage to the press. There could be extenuating reasons for why they haven't, but my skepticism is at roughly 9 right now.
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The sheriff's dept was quoted in the link.
 
Grant said:
WalMart does not have a history of this sort of behavior, quite the opposite in fact, but we do know that there is a war on WalMart by the Unions and this story, during the Christmas shopping season, is probably being promoted by them and their sympathizers. The final sentence of "The hit parade of insanity, greed, slave labor and customer-hate never seems to end with Walmart".

We know this is rubbish so I'm guessing that the rest of the story is as well.
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Yeah, I don't trust a word of it.
 
Redress said:
According to the Wal-Mart statement, the guy threatened the Wal-Mart staffer. He was not banned for add matching, but for the threat. Funny how there is almost always more to the story...
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Except that the only reason any possible confrontation took place, if in fact it did, was because they refused to let him AdMatch his items. Seems to me he ought to have a law suit against Walmart for banning him under false pretenses as well as false reports to the police, depending on whose story you choose to believe. I for one don't trust Walmart and am more likely to believe the man. I wonder if there were any witnesses.
 
shrubnose said:
Here's a video tape about this story:

There are other videos on this incident at YouTube.
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The video just says "An error occurred" so I can't watch. I'll try later, but it looks like the video may have been pulled. Please tell me what it shows, iyo. Did the man act out in such a way as to need the police called?
 
Summerwind said:
Except that the only reason any possible confrontation took place, if in fact it did, was because they refused to let him AdMatch his items. Seems to me he ought to have a law suit against Walmart for banning him under false pretenses as well as false reports to the police, depending on whose story you choose to believe. I for one don't trust Walmart and am more likely to believe the man. I wonder if there were any witnesses.
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Well, no, actually that is pretty far from the only possible reason. It is in fact one of possibly thousands of possible reasons.
 
Cardinal said:
Police Say "Banned From Walmart For Life" Story is All Wrong - Coupons in the News

This is, without a doubt, the least ambiguous condemnation by the police on the story. I'm outta here.
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From your link:
That said, one could argue that every Walmart shopper has the right to expect that their stores will not completely make up their own rules about ad matching. Not to excuse any alleged bad behavior, but the unanswered question is, why was Cantrell told that “only eggs and milk were on ad match, due to all the Black Friday ads”? There are no such exceptions listed on Walmart’s corporate ad match policy, and no indication that individual stores are given such wide latitude to pick and choose how they implement the chainwide “ad match guarantee”.

Cantrell may not have been banned for ad matching, strictly speaking. But the seemingly arbitrary ad match policy of this particular Walmart is what prompted the alleged argument that ultimately led to the “ban for life.” So ad matching is still a crucial part of the story here
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So apparently even the police approved reporting shows that it all started with Walmart not honoring it admatching commitment.
 
Well, some of those Wal Mart customers are pretty scary looking, especially the big fat women in short shorts. I don't blame the manager.

Lots of people ad match at Wal Mart, so I doubt that's the reason for the ban.

It's amazing to me how liberals want to ruin a good thing helping poor people in the community by providing goods at really low prices. It's almost like they don't really care about poor people and have no real experience with them.
 
Redress said:
Well, no, actually that is pretty far from the only possible reason. It is in fact one of possibly thousands of possible reasons.
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Please give me any report that shows it started with anything else.
 
The former wrestler says he was "handcuffed, humiliated and embarrassed in front of everybody at Wal-Mart," but the deputies quickly released him.
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He probably scared the employee just by giving him a mean look.
 
LowDown said:
It's amazing to me how liberals want to ruin a good thing helping poor people in the community by providing goods at really low prices. It's almost like they don't really care about poor people and have no real experience with them.
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The poor only deserve help if they unionize. Then they're golden.
 
Summerwind said:
From your link:

So apparently even the police approved reporting shows that it all started with Walmart not honoring it admatching commitment.
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Uh huh. No matter who's at fault, being loud and using swearing or threatening language always has the same ending. It's the okami code for getting forcibly expelled.
 
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Summerwind said:
Please give me any report that shows it started with anything else.
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Some people won't accept anything that lets Walmart off the hook. But Walmart is off the hook.
 
Redress said:
According to the Wal-Mart statement,...
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That's part of my problem with it - I don't think I have anymore room for Walmart "statements." I've given Walmart the benefit of the doubt on many issues over the years and they keep letting me down with their corporate behavior towards customers and employees. They don't seem to care about either one of them.

So, when they give a "statement," I just roll my eyes and wonder how I can trust it.
 
LowDown said:
Well, some of those Wal Mart customers are pretty scary looking, especially the big fat women in short shorts. I don't blame the manager.

Lots of people ad match at Wal Mart, so I doubt that's the reason for the ban.

It's amazing to me how liberals want to ruin a good thing helping poor people in the community by providing goods at really low prices. It's almost like they don't really care about poor people and have no real experience with them.
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The problem with Wal-Mart is not that it has low prices, it's that it has "low prices" at the cost of low wages, dumping people on the federal government, destruction of local businesses, destruction of community shopping. That's not the kind of capitalism we want to encourage. In short, Wal-Mart embodies what happens when the government gets in bed with businesses. They get to destroy the environment, set up slave shops in China, pay their workers a pittance all because they have the backing of federal governments around the world.
 
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Hatuey said:
The problem with Wal-Mart is not that it has low prices, it's that it has "low prices" at the cost of low wages, dumping people on the federal government, destruction of local businesses, destruction of community shopping. That's not the kind of capitalism we want to encourage.
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Are you willing to impose sufficient duties and/or reduce regulations/taxes to allow for US products to become competitive?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Are you willing to impose sufficient duties and/or reduce regulations/taxes to allow for US products to become competitive?
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... Walmart sells both US made products & foreign products. So I'm not seeing your point. The impact they have on communities is the problem. Not the competitiveness of US products.
 
Why would anyone make a hobby out of inconveniencing themselves? If you find the product cheaper somewhere else, buy it there.
 
Hatuey said:
... Walmart sells both US made products & foreign products. So I'm not seeing your point. The impact they have on communities is the problem. Not the competitiveness of US products.
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It doesn't surprise me that you cannot understand the association. If there were no demand for cheap prices, the Wal-marts of the world world not exist. It is the consumer that allows Wal-mart to thrive...
 
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