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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    I typically don't ever post in this section of the forum, but this story caught my eye this morning and caused much laughter and guilt. The laughter should be obvious after a quick read, but the guilt comes from knowing that I live in a country where something like this actually takes place. The old saying: "Read it and Weep," truly applies to this funny, yet so sad story. Enjoy this story, but have a handkerchief nearby as you realize what a _ _ _ _ _ _ up country we have created for ourselves. (fill in the blanks yourselves)


    Source: Wal-Mart bans man for life for matching ads- MSN Money

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    If Walmart makes savings to its customers available through such advertising and PR campaigns and then calls the police merely because customers get good at playing their marketing game, then that's Walmart's problem not the customers who play the game well. Poor ole Cantrell, can no longer do what he likes to do: Beat the stores at their own game.

    Here's what I propose since this is after all a politically driven forum: Americans should place a LIFETIME ban on Walmart and its immoral business practices. That way, Walmart can no longer practices its hobby of selling crappy products to American Customers! And, did you notice the embedded link from MSN to Investor Place, showing Walmart being sued for selling crappy gas cans?

    The hit parade of insanity, greed, slave labor and customer-hate never seems to end with Walmart.
    I don't do much shopping at Walmart basically due to it is usually crowded and there are always long lines at the check out. I would rather go to a store that is a bit more expensive, but less crowded and no lines when one is ready to check out.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    I want to know why the store has a policy they don't honor. Sounds shoddy to me.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I want to know why the store has a policy they don't honor. Sounds shoddy to me.
    Well, you know the saying: "someone's always gotta ruin it for everyone else."

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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, you know the saying: "someone's always gotta ruin it for everyone else."
    Yeah, and that would be Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    It doesn't surprise me that you cannot understand the association. If there were no demand for cheap prices, the Wal-marts of the world world not exist. It is the consumer that allows Wal-mart to thrive...
    Cheap prices are available. Wal-Mart creates the possibility of getting your shopping done in one place. For the overwhelming majority of people, it's convenience. Not pricing.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem with Wal-Mart is not that it has low prices, it's that it has "low prices" at the cost of low wages, dumping people on the federal government, destruction of local businesses, destruction of community shopping. That's not the kind of capitalism we want to encourage. In short, Wal-Mart embodies what happens when the government gets in bed with businesses. They get to destroy the environment, set up slave shops in China, pay their workers a pittance all because they have the backing of federal governments around the world.
    This business of preferring small stores where the prices are higher over big boxes where the prices are low? It must be religious thing. Or a snob thing. In any case a lot of people can't afford the luxury.

    Meanwhile, you seem to be under the impression that small businesses don't dump their low scale employees on federal programs and try to out-compete their competitors. I can assure you that your impression is false.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    This business of preferring small stores where the prices are higher over big boxes where the prices are low? It must be religious thing. Or a snob thing. In any case a lot of people can't afford the luxury.

    Meanwhile, you seem to be under the impression that small businesses don't dump their low scale employees on federal programs and try to out-compete their competitors. I can assure you that your impression is false.
    Smaller stores where prices are higher? What exactly are you buying at higher prices in smaller stores? I get my food shopping done in smaller stores because they regularly beat Wal-Mart on just about everything. I'd say the only thing Wal-Mart regularly beats smaller stores in is electronics and things like coke. And hey, I've got the studies to back it up:

    Key Studies on Big-Box Retail & Independent Business | Institute for Local Self-Reliance

    Across both sectors, this translates into about 2.6 times as many local jobs created when spending is directed to independent businesses instead of chains. The study concludes that a shift of just 10 percent of the market from chains to independents would produce 31,000 jobs paying $940 million in annual wages to BC workers.
    The study found that the local retailers return a total of 52 percent of their revenue to the local economy, compared to just 14 percent for the national chain retailers. Similarly, the local restaurants recirculate an average of 79 percent of their revenue locally, compared to 30 percent for the chain eateries.
    By comparison, $100 spent at a chain store in Portland yields just $33 in local economic impact. The study concludes that, if residents of the region were to shift 10 percent of their spending from chains to locally owned businesses, it would generate $127 million in additional local economic activity and 874 new jobs.
    The study found that only 16% of the money spent at a SuperTarget stays in the local economy. In contrast, the local retailers returned more than 32% of their revenue to the local economy.
    This study concludes that if residents of Grand Rapids and surrounding Kent County, Michigan, were to redirect 10 percent of their total spending from chains to locally owned businesses, the result would be $140 million in new economic activity for the region, including 1,600 new jobs and $53 million in additional payroll.
    very $1 million spent at local bookstores, for example, creates $321,000 in additional economic activity in the area, including $119,000 in wages paid to local employees. That same $1 million spent at chain bookstores generates only $188,000 in local economic activity, including $71,000 in local wages. The same was true in the other categories. For every $1 million in sales, independent toy stores create 2.22 local jobs, while chains create just 1.31. The final part of the study analyzes the impact of a modest shift in consumer spending. If residents were to redirect just 10 percent of their spending from chains to local businesses, that would generate $192 million in additional economic activity in San Francisco and almost 1,300 new job
    Look, I know you have a problem with small businesses. You wouldn't be a right winger if you didn't. However, I prefer them for the fact that the money spent in them stays in the community and doesn't go into the pockets of some guy who's never even been to the town. It's a fact, locally owned businesses benefit the community by - prepare for shock - reinvesting the money into their locality. How much does Wal-Mart reinvest in the community?
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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Cheap prices are available. Wal-Mart creates the possibility of getting your shopping done in one place. For the overwhelming majority of people, it's convenience. Not pricing.
    Actually this is the original reason I didn't go into Walmart, before I learned of it's generally deplorable behavior. When the first one opened in Boise, a couple of friends went and as far as a I know still go. What I noticed is that after Walmart opened they began having money troubles, which didn't really make sense since it was supposed to be so cheap to buy there. So during one of those financial complaining sessions, and me being an accountant at the time, I asked to see if I could figure out why... at the time I expected we'd find that contrary to their claims, they'd been nickle and diming themselves with lattes or something. Nope, what I found was that prior to Walmart, they went to the grocery store and bought groceries weekly, and things like the electronic, toy, and such stores rarely and only to buy what they "needed". When they began going to Walmart, they were buying everything in one place, yeah, but they were also buying things they hadn't "realized" they "needed" or better said, they didn't need at all but there those things were, tempting them into buying more than they needed or really wanted (since we also found many of the items purchased had been used once maybe twice and then shelved as not as useful/desireable as they had imagined.)
    I decided right then that places like Walmart, are just not safe to shop at unless you have extremely good self-control, which few Americans have, because of buying things not on the list and not really needed.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Actually this is the original reason I didn't go into Walmart, before I learned of it's generally deplorable behavior. When the first one opened in Boise, a couple of friends went and as far as a I know still go. What I noticed is that after Walmart opened they began having money troubles, which didn't really make sense since it was supposed to be so cheap to buy there. So during one of those financial complaining sessions, and me being an accountant at the time, I asked to see if I could figure out why... at the time I expected we'd find that contrary to their claims, they'd been nickle and diming themselves with lattes or something. Nope, what I found was that prior to Walmart, they went to the grocery store and bought groceries weekly, and things like the electronic, toy, and such stores rarely and only to buy what they "needed". When they began going to Walmart, they were buying everything in one place, yeah, but they were also buying things they hadn't "realized" they "needed" or better said, they didn't need at all but there those things were, tempting them into buying more than they needed or really wanted (since we also found many of the items purchased had been used once maybe twice and then shelved as not as useful/desireable as they had imagined.)
    I decided right then that places like Walmart, are just not safe to shop at unless you have extremely good self-control, which few Americans have, because of buying things not on the list and not really needed.

    That's actually a good point Summer. I have said many times I can't go into a walmart without dropping $100 bucks. But I still like the store, and shop there.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Bans Customer for LIFE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Except that the only reason any possible confrontation took place, if in fact it did, was because they refused to let him AdMatch his items. Seems to me he ought to have a law suit against Walmart for banning him under false pretenses as well as false reports to the police, depending on whose story you choose to believe. I for one don't trust Walmart and am more likely to believe the man. I wonder if there were any witnesses.
    even if we assume that the employee wrongly informed him he couldn't "ad-match" either through a personal mistake or directions from management, that doesn't grant him the right to threaten people

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