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Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for driving drunk, killing 4

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Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com

To families of the victims, Ethan Couch was a killer on the road, a drunken teenage driver who caused a crash that left four people dead.To the defense, the youth is himself a victim -- of "affuenza," according to one psychologist -- the product of wealthy, privileged parents who never set limits for the boy.
To a judge, who sentenced Couch to 10 years' probation but no jail time, he's a defendant in need of treatment.
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WHAT?????? Holy hell....I'll fully agree that the kid needs treatment, but damn.....


All four were killed when the teen's pickup plowed into the pedestrians. Couch's vehicle also struck a parked car, which then slid into another vehicle driving in the opposite direction.Two people riding in the bed of the teen's pickup were tossed in the crash and severely injured.
One is no longer able to move or talk because of a brain injury, while the other suffered internal injuries and broken bones.
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I thought Texas was a "hang 'em high" kinda place?

Jail sure isn't going to change anything for anyone in this scenario, but christ on a cracker......

He even STOLE the beer......

And some people wonder why there's anger and frustration towards the rich and privileged.
 
Dragonfly said:
Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com




WHAT?????? Holy hell....I'll fully agree that the kid needs treatment, but damn.....




I thought Texas was a "hang 'em high" kinda place?

Jail sure isn't going to change anything for anyone in this scenario, but christ on a cracker......

He even STOLE the beer......

And some people wonder why there's anger and frustration towards the rich and privileged.
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Its **** like this why I support mandatory minimums. Had there have been a mandatory minimum for this crime then it wouldn't have mattered if he was rich or poor.
 
"The United States is a nation of laws!"

:lamo
 
jamesrage said:
Its **** like this why I support mandatory minimums. Had there have been a mandatory minimum for this crime then it wouldn't have mattered if he was rich or poor.
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Bull****. The wealthy wiggle out of stuff like that.
 
Jango said:
"The United States is a nation of laws!"
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:lamo
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And historically the courts in the USA have always favored the rich and famous.

So if you want to get a fair judgement in a court in the USA, don't forget to be rich and/or famous!
 
When I first read this, I honestly thought it was a story from The Onion.

Just an appalling mockery of justice.

Taking bets now on who the first person is to blame "liberalism" for this senseless, inexcusable act, or the shameful ruling that followed.
 
shrubnose said:
And historically the courts in the USA have always favored the rich and famous.

So if you want to get a fair judgement in a court in the USA, don't forget to be rich and/or famous!
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That's the effect I was going for.

Rich = probation, treatment and fines
Non-rich = incarceration or death
 
Kobie said:
When I first read this, I honestly thought it was a story from The Onion.

Just an appalling mockery of justice.

Taking bets now on who the first person is to blame "liberalism" for this senseless, inexcusable act, or the shameful ruling that followed.
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Giving him everything and not setting limits.....hmmmmmm. You must have thought of it first. I guess his parents didn't want to hurt his self-esteem. :roll:
 
American said:
Giving him everything and not setting limits.....hmmmmmm. You must have thought of it first. I guess his parents didn't want to hurt his self-esteem. :roll:
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I know this place too well.
 
American said:
Giving him everything and not setting limits.....hmmmmmm. You must have thought of it first. I guess his parents didn't want to hurt his self-esteem. :roll:
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That's not liberalism, that's just ****ty parenting.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
That's not liberalism, that's just ****ty parenting.
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To me it's a mindset that children need to be accommodated instead of taught they have a subordinate status in this society due to their age, maturity and experience. Any behavorial control seems something liberals are against. Was it a liberal policy, no. It's a way of thinking that right and wrong are relative, and up to each person discretion, and doing what feels good. I knows this comes across as political, but that's not my point in this case.
 
American said:
To me it's a mindset that children need to be accommodated instead of taught they have a subordinate status in this society due to their age, maturity and experience. Any behavorial control seems something liberals are against. Was it a liberal policy, no. It's a way of thinking that right and wrong are relative, and up to each person discretion, and doing what feels good. I knows this comes across as political, but that's not my point in this case.
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I thought liberals were all about controlling behavior?
 
This seriously makes me want to throw up.
 
American said:
To me it's a mindset that children need to be accommodated instead of taught they have a subordinate status in this society due to their age, maturity and experience. Any behavorial control seems something liberals are against. Was it a liberal policy, no. It's a way of thinking that right and wrong are relative, and up to each person discretion, and doing what feels good. I knows this comes across as political, but that's not my point in this case.
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No, it's not a mindset about children, its the mindset of rich ass parents who just spoil their kid.


On-topic: The thing that really disgusts me is how the kid had so little respect for human life that he literally had no remorse for what he did.
 
Kobie said:
I thought liberals were all about controlling behavior?
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You think the free love crowd of the 60's are the conservatives of today?
 
Mr. Invisible said:
No, it's not a mindset about children, its the mindset of rich ass parents who just spoil their kid.


On-topic: The thing that really disgusts me is how the kid had so little respect for human life that he literally had no remorse for what he did.
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I agree with that statement.
 
Sickening example of the "just us" system. The only justice, possibly to be had, will be on the civil side of the law. Both the parents and the company providing the truck will be sued civilly. It is a sick society that we live in where money buys access to the "just us" system.
 
This story is unbelievable.


Also I can imagine that the vitctim's family could give two ****s about whether the parents of the killer was conservative or liberal. If they were liberal, doesn't mean all liberals parent like that and if they were conservative, doesn't mean all conservatives parent like that. So what does that matter in the end? Give it a rest already.
 
I have heard one of the legal commentators on HLN indicate that probation for these circumstances (Drunk driver involved in an acceident resulting in death) is fairly common. While the argument the defense attorney used is ridiculous, the outcome might not be as ridiculous as originally thoguht- assuming that commentator was correct.
 
The kid shoukd have done jail time over this no doubt.

But I've always thought the penalties for DUI in general were way too harsh.

Getting caught with a limit just above the .08 standard can cause life altering penalties that do not equate to the crime.

And they've gotten to this level because of the actions of lobbies who represent the worst case scenario of DUI cases.

Our laws used to be shaped around reasonable responses to illegal acts.

Groups like MADD shouldn't have the power to enable more Governmental power over the private individual.

Minor cases of DUI have turned into a revenue source for municipalities as they use demagogy , with the help of groups like MADD, to justify the consequences.
 
He was suffering from Affluenza! I hope he can get the help he needs at home!
 
This sort of thing is why I believe that ANY individual of ANY age who willingly and knowingly gets behind the wheel of a motor vehicle after having drunk alcohol within the last 12 hours should be charged with FIRST DEGREE MURDER, should they kill anyone while behind the wheel of that car. There is NO ACCEPTABLE REASON for anyone who has had a drink to be behind the wheel of a car, period. Doing so, at least in my mind, constitutes an active and knowing disregard for the safety of others and of themselves by placing them in charge of a weapon of the dealiest caliber.
 
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