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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ding ding ding.

    Many conservatives tried to paint left-wing skewering of Mark Foley or Ted Haggard or Larry Craig as being "anti-gay." Which is ridiculous. The issue is when people preach or legislate being anti-gay with one hand while jacking off a dude with the other. It's hypocrisy.
    You don't think the left gets preachy about certain things then fails to live up to it? Environmentalism springs readily to mind.

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Oh my those family values Republicans are at it again.
    Stories like this one especially have nothing to do with the GOP.

    They're the actions of an individual.

    There's a big difference between this and their stance on gay marriage, which ignores that it harms no one, it's natural and that many people are gay, including it's some of it's representatives who fight against rights for gays.

    On the other hand we're all against child pornography because it harms children and there's no double standard there.

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You don't think the left gets preachy about certain things then fails to live up to it? Environmentalism springs readily to mind.
    Most certainly some do. When did I say they didn't?

    Is it really to that point where one must make the "our side does it too, just different" codicil to any obvious highlighting of hypocrisy?
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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Most certainly some do. When did I say they didn't?

    Is it really to that point where one must make the "our side does it too, just different" codicil to any obvious highlighting of hypocrisy?
    In other words, you'd rather not have to acknowledge it or talk about it at all.

    It's just something I've noticed. You say it's just more right and fair to jump on the moral failings of those on the right because we speak more about upholding morality. Why then does that not translate to those things that liberals claim the high ground on?

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. It ranks right up there with the POTUS having an extramarital affair in the White House and then lying about it.
    Under oath. Perjury.

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No. I am comparing the actual, personal, intentional moral failure (twice, once by adultery and next by lying about it) to that of guilt by association with the (unknown?) moral failure of another.
    Which makes utterly no sense in the context of this thread. Rational thought seems to go out the window when politics is involved, sadly.

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In other words, you'd rather not have to acknowledge it or talk about it at all.

    It's just something I've noticed. You say it's just more right and fair to jump on the moral failings of those on the right because we speak more about upholding morality. Why then does that not translate to those things that liberals claim the high ground on?
    When did I ever say it did? When did I say it was "more right"?

    Perhaps if you didn't claim I said things I never said, I might be more inclined to actually discuss issues with you.
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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Senate aide suspected of distributing child pornography - latimes.com



    Oh my those family values Republicans are at it again. /sarcasm
    At least most conservatives aspire to higher morals and values, even if they sometimes fail. Many liberals don't even put up the pretense.
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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    At least most conservatives aspire to higher morals and values
    But often times it's an extremely hypocritical and wrong stand to take given facts.

    Many conservatives stance on Homosexuality is an example of this.

    But this particular story has nothing to do with moral grandstanding.

    even if they sometimes fail.
    In this case it has nothing to do with politics or political parties or of failing for that matter.

    It's about an individual doing something incredibly egregious and who will likely face very serious consequences (and rightly so).

    Many liberals don't even put up the pretense.
    This is a situation in which only the hardest of the hardcore partisans will try to turn it into some political hay.

    I think 99% of us, whether we be liberals, conservatives, libertarians, humanists (like myself) believe this mans actions are utterly wrong and contemptible and he should face maximum punishment.

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    Re: Senate Aide (R) Suspected of Distributing...

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If Republicans would stop being so damn preachy then there wouldn't be so much indignation.
    We're all preachy about child pornography. At least I would hope so. There should and would be outrage directed at any public official who engaged in this practice.

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