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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I guess it depends on what you think is essential. For all the lip service to "paring government down to essentials" there was an awful lot of outrage over no tours at the White House and the grounding of the Blue Angels. My own personal thought is that trick flying at air shows isn't "essential," though I see why WH tours are nice (but "essential" may be going too far).
    Agreed, tours and Angles are clearly non-essential (but I'm glad to have the Angles this summer at Traverse City). But these expenditures are more to the minor end of the scale when it comes to wasteful government spending, and we all know it.

    The entire shutdown was raft with examples of administration discretion, or rather the administration's grossly poor judgement. When additional funds need to be expended for closing unattended (setting up barricades) open air venues such as road side scenic turn outs or the WW II veterans memorial, or someone on duty turning people away, when normally an unattended venue, and especially so when select few are barred yet liberal / progressive groups are allowed to demonstrate on the Mall, it's all rather stinky, and the administration has that stink on them.

    Of course the complicit lame stream media was far more interesting in trumpeting the democrat / administration / Obama talking points rather than to hold the administration accountable for all this chicanery. But there ya go.

    This is a recurring pattern from this president and this administration, as when the sequester cuts were first instituted, they tried to make good on their rhetoric that the sky was going to fall but needlessly increasing the pain level on the electorate wherever and whenever they could. This has been documented. Nice to know that this president and this administration feel free to use the electorate as pawns in their political games.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I guess it depends on what you think is essential. For all the lip service to "paring government down to essentials" there was an awful lot of outrage over no tours at the White House and the grounding of the Blue Angels. My own personal thought is that trick flying at air shows isn't "essential," though I see why WH tours are nice (but "essential" may be going too far).
    Links to the "awful lot of outrage" regarding White House tours and the Blue Angel's being grounded?

    I remember an awful lot of outrage over public monuments that aren't routinely staffed and are open air locations being barred from the publics presence...I cna't say I remember an "awful lot" of complaints about hte blue angels. But since you've made the claim, I'm sure you can provide evidence to back it up.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Getting two years of extra sequester cuts on some areas in 2022 in exchange for losing sequester cuts on many areas in 2014 is not a good deal. Sorry Don, I don't buy that spin. If you buy it, give me a $100....I promise you than 10 years from now someone will pay you back $110.

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    If you want a "compromise" bill, then you work for one that decreases the Sequestration hit mildly for the next year and go from there. You don't remove nearly 2/3rds of the immediete sequestration savings in exchange for extra savings 10 years from now....IE, savings that will likely never see the light of day.

    I was not in favor of the last shutdown and thought it was politically ridiculous and fiscally ridiculous based on what they were doing and the legitimate chances of their gamble paying off.

    HOWEVER...

    I don't see that scenario playing out exactly the same way if we go into the deadline saying "We'll offer a clean 1 year CR at sequestration levels" and the Democrats are the ones refusing. After pushing a narritive for weeks about "clean" CR's, if the Republicans offer up such a thing and the Democrats refuse because they don't like the fact the last "budget" that it would be based off of isn't fat enough for them then it's FAR easier to point the blame in their direction. This is not the same thing as the Republicans refusing to pass a budget unless it defunds Obamacare....it'd be the Republicans saying "Hey, we'll continue doing the EXACT SAME THING we've been doing for the past year" and Democrats going "No, we want it larger".

    Sequestration was supposed to be in place as a means of getting real, tangiable, lasting fiscal reform. A plan for savings largely backloaded 10 years out is none of those things.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Links to the "awful lot of outrage" regarding White House tours and the Blue Angel's being grounded?

    I remember an awful lot of outrage over public monuments that aren't routinely staffed and are open air locations being barred from the publics presence...I cna't say I remember an "awful lot" of complaints about hte blue angels. But since you've made the claim, I'm sure you can provide evidence to back it up.
    It's all here on DP. Apacherat was having a fit. Not to mention the Fox stories about that poor kid who couldn't go to the White House because of the sequester.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's all here on DP. Apacherat was having a fit. Not to mention the Fox stories about that poor kid who couldn't go to the White House because of the sequester.
    1) So a single poster on DP equates to an "awfult lot" of complaints? This is the standard you use?

    2) You made a claim, still anxiously awaiting for you to post up a few links.

    Did I hurt your feelings, or do you just feel like being an ass today?
    I'm sorry you feel that asking you to verify your claims is "being an ass".

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

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    Pero, I don't agree with the TP on trying to "primary" out those that voted for the shutdown! Wrong thinking, IMO, when the big picture is considered! Don't they see this? :
    The problem is that there is no "big picture" when the current Republican leadership only pays lip service to fiscal responsibility. What is the point of winning elections if you are just filling the positions with more Republicans who wilt under pressure or spend like drunken sailors? The Republicans won the hell out of the 2004 election and all we got was Medicare Pt D. Who needs two Democratic Parties?
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

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    Someone in the party has to be a grownup and quell the tea party rabble.

    They are killing the party, time to send this fringe folk home.
    Let them kill the party. At this point, since it is a disgrace to the real conservative movement, it deserves to die.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    1) So a single poster on DP equates to an "awfult lot" of complaints? This is the standard you use?

    2) You made a claim, still anxiously awaiting for you to post up a few links.



    I'm sorry you feel that asking you to verify your claims is "being an ass".
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Well, thank you for the links. I appreciate you backing it up. It also helps. That actuallys explain why I didn't remember it happening; because you responded to someone talking about the government shut down, and used terminology relevant to the shutdown in terms of "essential" and "non-essential", and then referenced something from 6 months BEFORE the shutdown that had zero to do with the shutdown or the status of something as "essential or not".

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