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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    The budget can only be cut so much at one time. With that said this budget disappoints me. When spending as much as we do there has to be some area we can find to cut more of.....hmmmmm
    There is, Senator Conrad of ND before he retired identified 20 agencies that basically do the same work. By that I mean you may have 2 or 3 agencies that are responsible for pretty much the same stuff and do the same work. There was 20 agencies total that could have been cut to 8 and the job would still get done without all the duplication. His bill went no where.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I agree with him, which may surprise you. Though I'm less concerned with how the Repubs look and more concerned with the fact that the deal, while not the most wonderful thing you could think of, beats the hell out of playing political chicken every few months.
    On this I agree with you.

    While not the greatest deal, it's a deal none the less, and should be taken, rather than another fiscal meltdown and, yet another, government shutdown of non-essential personal - (although, I have to ask, if they aren't essential, what are they doing there to being with? Why is the tax payer stuck paying more for government fat?)

    Which the Democrats would use their media cudgel and beat everyone into believing that it's really the Republican's fault.

    Further, one could hope that this is the first of the needed building blocks to further spending controls, as DC does have a spending problem and not a revenue (aka taxation) problem. Of course Democrats have a weak track record on honoring their longer term spending control commitments, so that'd have to be taken as a trust but verify approach by the Republicans, which I think is justified.



    Guess I had to throw that in for just a little bit of levity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Another shutdown would basically destroy 2014 for the Republicans. The Democrats know this and had them basically where they wanted them. This probably was the best deal possible. Sometimes it is better to retreat a bit in order to fight another day with an eye on the big prize next November, The senate. Then there is the ACA.

    If you remember last October the gap closed from 14-19 points in opposition to the ACA down to 4-10 points because of the shutdown. Now that gap is just getting back to where it was, another shut down may guarantee that law is here to stay. The Republicans will have to be adept not to fall into one of the pitfalls or Democratic Party trap between now and next November.

    Astute observation. One I agree with.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There is, Senator Conrad of ND before he retired identified 20 agencies that basically do the same work. By that I mean you may have 2 or 3 agencies that are responsible for pretty much the same stuff and do the same work. There was 20 agencies total that could have been cut to 8 and the job would still get done without all the duplication. His bill went no where.
    Oh my question was rhetorical, i know there is excessive waste and redundancy within the government.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Oh my question was rhetorical, i know there is excessive waste and redundancy within the government.
    My fingers needed the exercise.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How is giving up 20% of my retirement only caring about myself??
    Do you think the administrators, who make twice as much as I do in retirement, would give back 20%??
    How much is enough to the greedy Public Pensioneers who don't need it all or all of it??
    Compare to the lowly paid Public Pensioneers like my Mom .
    Dude, Im saying you don't care about ME OR ANY OTHER SERVICEMEMBER. You care about YOUR retirement. I could care less about all of the other crap you're talking about. You're totally missing the point here.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    If Republicans were smart, they'd just sit back and let Obamacare suck. Which it does and will continue to do so. With no help needed from them and probably nothing the Dems can do....it's going to be a purely reactionary process, IMO. See where the holes are, then try to patch them as thousands or millions make their displeasure known. Or even worse, continue to tell people to just 'try it and see, it's just growing pains.' In other words, just do it. That's not going to sit well either.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    I think the republicans are just lazy. They gave up their major bargaining chip so that they won't have to bargain. We're running out of reformists.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Apparently not, sometimes it takes experience along with the school of hard knocks. I remember back in 1964 campaigning and voting for Barry Goldwater. There were quite a lot of people who told me he couldn't win, that the Republicans needed to nominate someone who could win. But I wouldn't listen, none of us Goldwater supporters would listen. We celebrated big time when he won the California Primary and then the nomination. We were totally unprepared for the election results that November.

    I learned, so too should the tea party have learned from their Aiken, Mourdock, Angle, O'Donnell nominations that cost senate seats. Apparently not.
    : We will know soon enough, though.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    On this I agree with you.

    While not the greatest deal, it's a deal none the less, and should be taken, rather than another fiscal meltdown and, yet another, government shutdown of non-essential personal - (although, I have to ask, if they aren't essential, what are they doing there to being with? Why is the tax payer stuck paying more for government fat?)
    I guess it depends on what you think is essential. For all the lip service to "paring government down to essentials" there was an awful lot of outrage over no tours at the White House and the grounding of the Blue Angels. My own personal thought is that trick flying at air shows isn't "essential," though I see why WH tours are nice (but "essential" may be going too far).


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    : We will know soon enough, though.
    Yep, it will make for a very interesting election season to be sure. So keep tuned to my blogs and predictions. I already made some changes for the 1 January update number 5 to a senate seat and the house. Yes indeed, it will be a very interesting election.
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